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John Kerry

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MBS

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60. this seemed to me a good analysis
Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:05 AM
Nov 2012

I am thoroughly sick of the speculation, and the political maneuvering associated with it, but after reading all the Stuff this is how I feel:
1. SOD would be a terrible fit, and whoever had this idea or started this rumor is either dumb, or totally clueless about what Kerry's strengths are and/or what the SOD job entails OR they have dishonorable intentions. It's a really bad idea. If , God forbid, he's offered this position, I really REALLY hope that he turns it down. Reading the Kaplan article and his account of Les Aspin's (horrible and life-shortening) experience there only hardened my opinion further.
2. Sen. Kerry is more qualified to be SOS than anyone I can think of, and he eminently deserves the recognition. I would love to see him get that recognition and to have his voice at State and in the world. But. Although I've long held the idea that Sen. Kerry would have more freedom and scope as chair of SFRC than SOS, I've gradually come to a "wait and see" view, similar to some others on this thread, concluding that if he's offered this position, and he wants it, he should do it. HOWEVER, after reading Kaplan's article and his analysis of the Obama administration's top-down management style, my doubts about what freedom JK would have to define his own job, and worries that he could be treated cavalierly by the administration, increased once again. If Sen. Kerry becomes SOS, I have no doubt that he would do a cracker-jack job. . .IF the administration gives him rein to do things his way. But the Kaplan article implied that even Hillary had no significant input on policy or SOS priorities . . .would the Obama administration give him full support to , say, connecting the global dots between climate change/environmental issues and international issues? I would hope so, but, like I said, I wonder.
By the way, the article did raise in my mind significant worries about Rice's style. Obama was right to defend her, but after reading some of the quotes in the Kaplan article, I really did wonder about her fit for the job. Which makes me think that, were the choice only between Rice and Kerry, that Kerry would be better for the country. The question is: would it better for Sen. Kerry?
Having watched the Coakley train-wreck up close and personal, I also admit to being nervous about setting the MA senate seat in play at short notice. However, if this does happen, hopefully Walsh is right that they won't let a "Coakley" happen again. (Off topic, but the fact that her name has even been mentioned as a possible senate candidate again is just mind-boggling). In any case, Sen. Kerry should do whatever is best for him -- whatever will give him the most scope, whatever will give him the greatest satisfaction -- and not be held back just because of those considerations. God knows he's earned that right, in spades. Plus I trust his judgment.
3. But if he stays in the Senate, as chair of SFRC, and continuing to work on things he's passionate about, like climate change and other environmental problems and much more, he would continue to be very, very effective, especially since finally (decades too late!) he's getting the wide respect and public acknowledgement of his integrity, intelligence, passion, courage, judgment and deep competence that he's long deserved. He also could continue to be a voice for Democrats, which, because it's essentially a non-partisan office, he would NOT be able to do at State (He was absolutely great as a TV spokesman during the campaign: his witty quips were always something to looking forward to ) Although I would love to see Sen. Kerry free of the incestuous, parochial nature of MA (especially Boston) politics (something that SOS would provide for him), I've returned to thinking (especially if Kaplan's analysis is correct about SOS) that he might be in the end be more satisfied as chair of SFRC.

Well, if he has a choice (and he deserves to at least have a choice), I'm sure he'll do what's best and most appropriate, and he'll continue to grace us with his intelligence, integrity and excellence, whatever he decides to do. But I really, really hope that he doesn't do SOD.

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Defense Secretary? [View all] beachmom Nov 2012 OP
at least Kerry is a dem lol...but maybe better he stays in the senate nt msongs Nov 2012 #1
Leon Panetta is a Dem. beachmom Nov 2012 #3
First thoughts: beachmom Nov 2012 #2
we'll get a good Dem from Duvall Patrick but when is Kerry's seat up for re-election? NMDemDist2 Nov 2012 #4
More details from Chuck Todd: beachmom Nov 2012 #5
Or may be it is just the people wanting Rice making noise. Mass Nov 2012 #13
Exactly. wisteria Nov 2012 #14
Sounds bogus. n/t ProSense Nov 2012 #6
I don't think it's bogus. I just think it is a trial balloon that might deflate quickly. beachmom Nov 2012 #7
Yeah, maybe I'm missing something, but ProSense Nov 2012 #11
Never I think. LOL n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #16
That could be to. He is more suited for SOS, IMO. wisteria Nov 2012 #15
I'm good with it TomClash Nov 2012 #8
How about Jim Webb. fearnobush Nov 2012 #9
I haven't heard his name come up. I don't think he actually cared for politics, so he might not beachmom Nov 2012 #10
More DC parlor games. Mass Nov 2012 #12
Can't see certain people ever accepting Kerry for This position JI7 Nov 2012 #17
Republicans actually saying same thing I did: beachmom Nov 2012 #20
For what is it worth, the same WP just a few day's ago, said Kerry was a no go because Reid karynnj Nov 2012 #18
Great points. ProSense Nov 2012 #19
Gleeful tweets from Republicans that Scott Brown will have his Senate seat back. beachmom Nov 2012 #21
I am so tired of the irrational fear of this idiot. Mass Nov 2012 #22
I really dislike Kornaki, but I am surprised and happy to read this. Mass Nov 2012 #23
Kerry would make as good a Defense Secretary as Secretary of State. That said, though... Blaukraut Nov 2012 #24
Kerry wants it, if he really didn't there would be no point to consider him JI7 Nov 2012 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author politicasista Nov 2012 #26
A few more points beachmom Nov 2012 #25
This report, sourced contrarily to others, makes a lot more sense. Mass Nov 2012 #27
this does make sense karynnj Nov 2012 #28
Actually, this leak is a progress. Mass Nov 2012 #30
Incidentally, if Rice IS his choice, I totally agree with Kevin Drum that the Benghazi stuff beachmom Nov 2012 #31
Totally agree. Mass Nov 2012 #32
if Rice is picked KErry will have a huge Role in DEfending her JI7 Nov 2012 #34
Totally agree. Counter McCain/Graham. beachmom Nov 2012 #36
I don't think he should be placed in a position to defend her at all. wisteria Nov 2012 #64
he is on the senate foreign relations committee, and he would be defending JI7 Nov 2012 #67
Possibly, but others could do perform that role too. n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #70
Thanks for the wise words karynnj Nov 2012 #33
What does everyone think of the POTUS's rightful defense of Rice today? beachmom Nov 2012 #35
I could see it either way karynnj Nov 2012 #37
Although few GOP Senators have said anything. beachmom Nov 2012 #38
I think he has to nominate her now or look like he caved. wisteria Nov 2012 #40
That's how I see it as well Inuca Nov 2012 #45
The attacks on Rice are unfounded and unfair. wisteria Nov 2012 #41
I quite agree, but Republicans can treat people in unfair ways karynnj Nov 2012 #42
It was the right thing to do, but I am not sure he will name her. Mass Nov 2012 #39
how realistic is it for him to convince Hillary to stay on ? JI7 Nov 2012 #43
I will stop with this topic as I still think Obama is getting setup. Mass Nov 2012 #44
I see a set up also. n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #46
Venocchi says, Sen. Kerry should get SOS. wisteria Nov 2012 #47
Nice article, but I strongly disagree with her criticism of Susan Rice. beachmom Nov 2012 #49
It seems the more a Republican is promoted the more of an empty suit he is. wisteria Nov 2012 #54
She is right, but her motives are wrong. Mass Nov 2012 #50
Thanks for sharing your thoughts from a Mass perspective. n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #55
Fred Kaplan thinks if asked Kerry should turn down job at Pentagon beachmom Nov 2012 #48
this seemed to me a good analysis MBS Nov 2012 #60
You know, if he is offered the post and turns it down, wisteria Nov 2012 #72
Yeah, what you said Noisy Democrat Nov 2012 #75
While we're discussing it, don't you think we've had enough Shitpublicans rock Nov 2012 #51
I agree, it got President Obama nowhere the last four years wisteria Nov 2012 #57
Sec.Panetta Blue Nile Nov 2012 #52
Welcome wisteria Nov 2012 #56
It is heartening to read that Walsh protect our future Nov 2012 #53
I have to say at this point, I feel sorry for Kerry. Mass Nov 2012 #58
I agree with you. wisteria Nov 2012 #59
I am angry at President Obama. wisteria Nov 2012 #61
it sure feels like the situation is being mishandled, that's for sure MBS Nov 2012 #62
Thank you, how exciting that you got to see him. wisteria Nov 2012 #63
Happy Thanksgiving to you! karynnj Nov 2012 #68
That could be. n/t wisteria Nov 2012 #69
Other reasoning could also be in play. wisteria Nov 2012 #71
Listen, I understand your anger and share it, but I am not certain it is Mass Nov 2012 #65
Thanks for the input. wisteria Nov 2012 #66
I don't know what's really going on but I'm inclined to agree Noisy Democrat Nov 2012 #74
It appears that Kerry as SOD is now the new target. wisteria Nov 2012 #73
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