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Maru Kitteh

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Thu Jun 16, 2016, 03:39 PM Jun 2016

Sanders' demands & the path forward - What if it were two men? [View all]

Last edited Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:03 AM - Edit history (3)

This is kind of an expanded x-post from a reply I formed in GD-P, but honestly it's a point I've not seen brought up yet.

Pardon my girl-dar, but I'm catching a little whiff of less-than-equal treatment and paternalism in the media's treatment of Mr. Sanders and his behavior since the end of the Democratic primaries. It saddens me to my core to say this, but I have come to believe that Mr. Sanders would not be making demands of his victor if he had lost the same contest to a man, and more importantly; I do not believe the media or so many others would be entertaining it with any seriousness were the contest between two men.

The content of the demands Mr. Sanders is making of the party he so recently joined has been noted and addressed by the media as transparently self-oriented. That's fine, but what about the very fact that this man who lost, is now not only failing to concede graciously in accordance with all traditions of politics and basic sportsmanship to the female who bettered him, but also making demands targeted most pointedly at powerful women (and fewer men I notice) in the party?

When Mr. Trump mused that he may remove the chairman of the RNC if he won his party's nomination, the statement was treated rightly as vindictive and childish; a threat to act as a spiteful and belligerent winner. Mr. Sanders is the loser, not the winner, and yet he has not merely mused upon, but demanded the right to oust the powerful female chair of our party and install his own choice.

Unless and until Mr. Sanders makes a gracious concession and changes his tone towards the nominee and the party he so recently hooked his wagon to, the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party should quietly dismiss him. This is not an appeal merely out of reaction to discerned paternalism, but also a matter of respect for the voters, and the future of the party.

We should not set a precedent in this party whereby the runner-up gets to pick the platform, blame and subsequently oust the chair because they are mad about losing, and in short, demand that the party bend to the will of the losing campaign. This would make a mockery of voting. The voters choose a winner because they trust that winner and her/his vision to carry the party forward. The voters speak to endorse a leader who will shape the platform, the party organization, the process, and the Presidency. To cede leadership to the losing campaign is to disrespect the entire process and point of asking voters to make that choice.

That the winner of the process becomes the leader, that the victor chooses the path forward has never been a subject of question before, so why would it be now? On what basis might this man who lost feel entitled to dictate to women of power in this party what course they should take? I am a big believer in Occam's razor. Most often the obvious answer is in fact the correct one.

If someone can demonstrate an example of a time when Mr. Sanders lost to a man and behaved in a similar fashion I'm willing to look at it objectively and reconsider. We do have another example, curiously enough, of Mr. Sanders losing an election to a woman, and how he behaved then.
That Time Bernie Sanders Said He Was a Bigger Feminist Than His Female Opponent
Some of the parallels are rather stark and a bit disquieting.

The two-term governor who defeated Sanders endorses Hillary.
When Bernie Sanders ran against me in Vermont
Again, if someone can demonstrate Mr. Sanders showing this kind of pettish fractiousness following contests with men, I will happily give it fair reading.

Any parts or points of Mr. Sanders agenda should be brought forth as a request, not a demand, in the spirit of cooperation. The Democratic Party, with Hillary as the leader elected by the Democratic voters, should then decide what points to consider or adopt as she sees beneficial to the party and her campaign moving forward. It's obvious to many that the changes Mr. Sanders is demanding for the party he just recently and only "kind of" joined, are not-too-coincidentally exactly the ones he thinks would have allowed him to win. It seems rather self-serving because it is; but nonetheless it seems likely the campaigns will search for common ground.

There is room on the path forward for Mr. Sanders, but there must be no doubt that it is Secretary Clinton, at the behest of the voters of our party who has been chosen to make those decisions great and small that will guide our journey.

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I think making some of your text into links is cutting them off... BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #1
DNC failed spud_demon Jun 2016 #2
DWS was Obama's choice! Her Sister Jun 2016 #5
They are gone. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #14
Clinton has already picked the new DNC leader, it's about his man-splainin' demands Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #10
I believe you were looking for the Sanders Group. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #13
"Member" since 6/2/16. teamster633 Jun 2016 #17
Thank you DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #3
We are learning a lot about BS! Her Sister Jun 2016 #4
We seem to have a LOT of cultural gender issues remaining. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #6
Awww, have a hug yallerdawg Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #11
I've got issues related to that too shadowandblossom Jun 2016 #24
There's plenty of sexism involved. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #7
Amen. eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #26
+10 sarae Jun 2016 #27
It appears to me that the entire "Revolution" smells like sexism from the head down. Walk away Jun 2016 #8
There seems to be at least a couple 'isms" in the so-called revolution, I think. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #12
Spot on! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #9
Great OP. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #15
Thank you sheshe :-) Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #22
Awesome OP, Maru.. Thank you! Cha Jun 2016 #16
Thanks Cha ! Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #20
.. Cha Jun 2016 #21
I'd give this many many recs if I could NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #18
Thanks. Now that he's had his big toodle-oo I think I'll post it in GDP, while Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #19
Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. So spot on. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #23
wonderul post shadowandblossom Jun 2016 #25
K & R! sarae Jun 2016 #28
Huge K&R! lunamagica Jun 2016 #29
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