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MADem

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45. Not all PROGRESSIVES are saints--and it's not a synonym for 'liberal.'
Wed May 27, 2015, 08:48 PM
May 2015

In fact, the original PROGRESSIVE PARTY was an offshoot of the Republican Party. Of course, Republicans were much nicer back then, it was before the "Southern Strategy" started pushing them off the rails.

A lot of people here on DU would be shocked to learn that the "Third Way" is regarded by scholars as a subset of progressive movements. Don't tell them--it's more fun to read the boasts about progressive credentials juxtaposed with childish "Turd Way" jokes.

Progressive stances have evolved over time. In the late 19th century, for example, certain progressives argued for scientific racism on the grounds that it had a scientific basis.[3] Imperialism was a controversial issue within progressivism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, particularly in the United States where some progressives supported American imperialism while others opposed it.[3] In response to World War I, progressive American President Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points established the concept of national self-determination and criticized imperialist competition and colonial injustices; these views were supported by anti-imperialists in areas of the world that were resisting imperial rule.[15] During the period of acceptance of economic Keynesianism, there was acceptance of a large role for state intervention in the economy, however with the rise of neoliberalism and challenges to state interventionist policies, centre-left progressive movements responded by creating the Third Way that emphasized a major role for the market economy.[16] In the aftermath of the arising of the Great Recession, economic policies established or influenced by neoliberalism have faced scrutiny and criticism in mainstream politics. There have been social democrats who have called for the social democratic movement to move past Third Way.[17] Prominent progressive conservative elements in the British Conservative Party have criticized neoliberalism.[18]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism

More, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way



Wisconsin's own Joe McCarthy started out as a Democrat and morphed into a Progressive Republican--he was regarded as a plain-speaking progressive....until he morphed into a fucking asshole, a cruel monster, who persecuted people and thought everyone had a commie in the family and one hiding under the bed, too...didn't end well for him, then, did it?

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Well isn't it the first rule of all Progressives.. to attack the Democratic Party? TerrapinFlyer May 2015 #1
+1. "Progressive" is a misnomer. Hoyt May 2015 #6
Got that right. Cha May 2015 #18
Not all PROGRESSIVES are saints--and it's not a synonym for 'liberal.' MADem May 2015 #45
Good history. No wonder it's often like dealing with tbaggers Hoyt May 2015 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author merrily May 2015 #53
so many "democrats" hated democrats JI7 May 2015 #2
yes steve2470 May 2015 #3
Do establishment Dems represent us well? RobertEarl May 2015 #39
Democrats tend to act like yippy dogs. JoePhilly May 2015 #4
well stated, good analogy nt steve2470 May 2015 #5
No. Badly stated RobertEarl May 2015 #43
totally agree TerrapinFlyer May 2015 #7
When I hear that sentence my heart sinks. Maraya1969 May 2015 #10
+1. "Endless sniping". I plead guilty as well, but your analysis is spot on! Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #16
How does endless sniping create the opposite of better candidates? Demit May 2015 #58
Take DU as an example ... JoePhilly May 2015 #60
I am saving this mcar May 2015 #61
Thanks!! JoePhilly May 2015 #62
I will mcar May 2015 #67
You said "endless sniping creates the OPPOSITE of better candidates." Demit May 2015 #63
Look, if you want to waste your time whining ... feel free. JoePhilly May 2015 #64
You sure take up a lot of space dodging a question. Demit May 2015 #65
I answered you ... you just don't like the answer. JoePhilly May 2015 #66
Right you are, and in enough detail that anyone open to facts should recognize the truth. Hekate May 2015 #69
You left out drones and NSA nikto Jun 2015 #73
Totally! treestar Jun 2015 #72
Just because a person posts on DU rock May 2015 #8
Exactly.. they can have any anonymous agenda they want. Until they slip up that is. Cha May 2015 #26
K & R. n/t FSogol May 2015 #9
It's Where The Core Of The Democratic Party Has Gone colsohlibgal May 2015 #11
"This site is filled with more progressive democrats, apparently, than neo democrats." OilemFirchen May 2015 #13
And if your vote for Stein, who will not win the presidency, happens to put a GOP in office, okay? freshwest May 2015 #14
Well said, fresh. Cha May 2015 #30
"Neo Democrats"? This site is filled with mean spirited hate.. slinging ignorant cheap pot shots Cha May 2015 #28
Nice knowing you. Hope you enjoy GREEN UNDERGROUND during the general electon. MADem May 2015 #46
I thought we would have a deeper understanding of realpolitik. yallerdawg May 2015 #12
That's a great post. But I do feel at times, as many others do, that it's waste here. freshwest May 2015 #15
We're just freer thinkers than them. LoveIsNow May 2015 #17
Who are "we" and who are "them"? OilemFirchen May 2015 #22
Democrats and Republicans LoveIsNow May 2015 #25
Okay, then. OilemFirchen May 2015 #27
Okay, then. LoveIsNow May 2015 #38
The OP was about "Hate".. and this has been true. "Rage Bait" is all the rage.. Ignorant Cheap Pot Cha May 2015 #40
not me... I am a party person. OKNancy May 2015 #34
Damn skippy! nt MrScorpio May 2015 #19
The same people would have complained bitterly about FDR. PBass May 2015 #20
"Rage Bait" is exaclty what they go for.. the more ignorant the better. Oh yeah, FDR wouldn't have Cha May 2015 #37
Completely unrecommended. Enthusiast May 2015 #21
What is a "false" Democrat? OilemFirchen May 2015 #23
Excellent post MissDeeds May 2015 #29
Who cares? As was stated in the OP.. this is the Barack Obama Group. If FDR were President now Cha May 2015 #31
Yeah...that swell integrated military--wait a minute, wait a MINUTE!!!! MADem May 2015 #47
How Sad for all those Black Sailors.. Yeah, the good ol days. I figured there would have been Cha May 2015 #50
Whining and shite being the key words here when we don't agree. Enthusiast May 2015 #55
Like I said this is the Barack Obama Group stated clearly in the OP.. So you don't come in here Cha May 2015 #56
Just read an article about the Japanese internment camps OKNancy May 2015 #35
Big Anti-Bernie pile-on starting on Facebook.... radhika May 2015 #24
Not sure why a few didn't read in your OP that this is the Barack Obama Group? They have the whole Cha May 2015 #32
K&R! hrmjustin May 2015 #33
Good for Skinner! sheshe2 May 2015 #36
me neither carolinayellowdog May 2015 #41
The VAST majority of members here are progressives. OilemFirchen May 2015 #48
Most Democrats don't hate Democats. NanceGreggs May 2015 #42
The good news is that this place in no way represents Democrats in the real world. nt onehandle May 2015 #51
+1 million. nt MADem May 2015 #54
Exactly. n/t FSogol May 2015 #70
Good for Skinner. brer cat May 2015 #44
K & R Iliyah May 2015 #52
dems hating dems RedstDem May 2015 #57
the "hate" is ugly and ignorant and I'm not even sure they are Dems. And, this is the Barack Obama Cha May 2015 #59
Yeah, I've seen some viciousness too. nt Stellar May 2015 #68
21 Major Hogwash May 2015 #71
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