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Cha

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12. Thank you for all those quotes from the link, MBS.. I think you're one of the rare people who
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:46 AM
May 2015

ever go to those links.. that I've heard about anyway.

I think there are some really intelligent people on TOD who have been into what's going on in politics for a long time. I've learned a lot over the years.. and I don't always agree with everything but there are great information gatherers!

Liberal Librarian ‎@Lib_Librarian
Warren: Obama is intellectually dishonest.

Man, that's a fancy way of calling a man a liar.

12:46 PM - 19 May 2015

Turns out Sen Warren is projecting..

"Elizabeth Warren is Not Telling the Truth About The Trans-Pacific Partnership Trade Deal"

As far as it goes, both groups probably have at least some reason to take offense, although President Obama’s occasional tendency toward informality is, right or wrong, verifiably not gender-based. But on the substance, there is clearly no contest: President Obama is right, and Senator Warren is wrong.

More precisely, President Obama is telling the truth about the deal, and Senator Warren is not. Since the TPP deal is still under negotiation, the merits of the final agreement are (or will be) debatable, but the deceptive rhetoric being employed by Warren is not.

The issue of trade is one of the (rare) areas in which I consider myself a moderate Democrat, able to see the merits of both sides of the question, but persuadable in either direction. Like many Democrats, I’ve got a strong sense that in trade deals past, we’ve gotten screwed, and that our leaders have not properly leveraged the value of the American consumer. On the other hand, President Obama makes a compelling case that the trade choo-choo is leaving the station, with us or without us, and so we’re better off having our hand somewhere on the throttle. Either way, I also believe that every leader needs political pressure from the left, because it makes them get us a better deal

More..
http://thedailybanter.com/2015/04/elizabeth-warren-is-not-telling-the-truth-about-the-trans-pacific-partnership-trade-deal/

And, of course, the OP points out EW's lies, too.

snip//

"But then we have Warren stating with a straight face that handing negotiating authority to Obama would “give Republicans the very tool they need to dismantle Dodd-Frank.”

Huh? Obama swatted down the remark as wild, hypothetical speculation, noting he engaged in a “massive” fight with Wall Street to get the reforms passed. “And then I sign a provision that would unravel it?” he told political writer Matt Bai.






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I did not know that about the past 80 years. NYC_SKP May 2015 #1
My decision on whether has been in reserve for some time, I would like to see the final agreement. Thinkingabout May 2015 #2
Excellent article. Every Prez "Except Obama." Quite damning if you ask me. Hoyt May 2015 #3
“This is not a partisan issue,” Warren insisted. Yes, in a twisted way, the hard left’s fixation Cha May 2015 #7
"Warren: Obama is intellectually dishonest. Man, that's a fancy way of calling a man a liar." Cha May 2015 #8
I basically trust Obama on this issue MBS May 2015 #4
The complete dismissal of the president is what is wrong. yallerdawg May 2015 #5
Look at Elizabeth Warren giving props to the fact that she thinks that GWB was more transparent than Cha May 2015 #9
I've been very disappointed by Warren's showboating on this MBS May 2015 #11
Thank you for all those quotes from the link, MBS.. I think you're one of the rare people who Cha May 2015 #12
Say whaaaaaaat?? Major Hogwash May 2015 #16
+ 100 n/t MBS May 2015 #10
I was going to post this.. mahalo madame. The case put forth by a showboating U.S. Sen. EW Cha May 2015 #6
Washington state has done really well these last 5 years or so, especially in the area of trade. Major Hogwash May 2015 #17
I finally read the whole oped MBS May 2015 #13
"It sure is hard to be an intelligent leader in this country." Indeed. great white snark May 2015 #14
" " " " n/t MBS May 2015 #15
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