Barack Obama

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58. Your post was below trivial

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:08 AM

Jun 2013

I don't have to trivialize it, you beat me to it.
BTW Hyperbole is exaggeration, comparing the holocaust to pen logs falls in that category.
Yeah, the discussion is about pen logs, anything else is imagination or speculation.

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President Obama is not violating his liberal principles by defending the NSA. He is exercising them. [View all] OKNancy Jun 2013 OP

This assumes the only use of domestic spying is to keep us upaloopa Jun 2013 #1

Lots of things can be put to bad uses Progressive dog Jun 2013 #6

I disagree-- otherwise, why do we bother having laws at all? NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #41

You misunderstood what I said Progressive dog Jun 2013 #43

I'm going to try to say this in as neutral a fashion as I can muster. reusrename Jun 2013 #49

So NSA storing telephone logs leads to holocausts Progressive dog Jun 2013 #52

You need to dial back the hyperbole and outrage a little bit if you want to have a conversation. reusrename Jun 2013 #57

Your post was below trivial Progressive dog Jun 2013 #58

IMHO, the stuff about Dr. Mengele is extremely relevant to this conversation, and here's why: reusrename Jun 2013 #59

You talk about Mengele, monsters in our government Progressive dog Jun 2013 #60

Am I getting frustrated, yes, but I am not afraid of facing facts. reusrename Jun 2013 #61

Facing what facts? Progressive dog Jun 2013 #62

I've already responded to all of your questions and you have answered none of mine. reusrename Jun 2013 #64

You should be ashamed Progressive dog Jun 2013 #65

I don't know how to say this without sounding patronizing, but I'll ask a sincere question anyway. reusrename Jun 2013 #67

You equated government empoyees to monsters Progressive dog Jun 2013 #68

Are you too ashamed to discuss the Nazis or the Holocaust? reusrename Jun 2013 #69

Ever read "the boy who cried wolf"? Progressive dog Jun 2013 #70

Goebbels said it best: reusrename Jun 2013 #78

Obsessed with Nazi stuff aren't you Progressive dog Jun 2013 #79

first, it's not clear the laws even allow that-- it seems likely this was illegal. NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #50

If the Congress passes it, the President signs it, Progressive dog Jun 2013 #54

I agree Andy823 Jun 2013 #9

Amen Rebl Jun 2013 #19

Yes-- so true NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #22

yeah, you'd have to be a real idiiot to think that.. Cha Jun 2013 #44

OMG, what you did! freshwest Jun 2013 #86

Bush wasn't able to do it treestar Jun 2013 #39

2 term limit maybe Progressive dog Jun 2013 #46

The thread is about using these phone numbers to quell all opposition treestar Jun 2013 #53

You are right, I apologize Progressive dog Jun 2013 #55

Any president can abuse their powers... dennis4868 Jun 2013 #48

Excellent article, OKNancy. Cha Jun 2013 #2

Un-rec truebluegreen Jun 2013 #3

Yes, it has been proven effective. Details you're not interested in. Cha Jun 2013 #4

Bring me up to date on how it has been proven effective, so far I have seen only GoneFishin Jun 2013 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Vincardog Jun 2013 #8

No, that's not the reality ..that's Cha Jun 2013 #23

how would this control thing work? Progressive dog Jun 2013 #47

It's not fascim NaturalCommunist Jun 2013 #83

I actually believe those in charge who Cha Jun 2013 #11

So blind faith then? Civilization2 Jun 2013 #25

You have tons of other space to speak. This is a protected group. Be off. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #35

No, it's not "blind". Cha Jun 2013 #36

Once again a money making scheme JEB Jun 2013 #29

No, JEB.. the shit is real.. whether you acknowledge it or not. Cha Jun 2013 #45

Reality like the reality of how the terror-fightin' powers of The Patriot Act have *actually* Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #20

Yes, it sucks, Warren. Cha Jun 2013 #31

Glad we agree. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #32

I know it's stupid.. I don't understand it. But, I will Cha Jun 2013 #33

Strongest thing I do these days is green tea. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #34

Nothing is impossible to abuse treestar Jun 2013 #56

Exactly right NaturalCommunist Jun 2013 #82

Well said, NC. And, I don't Cha Jun 2013 #84

Plus a million. freshwest Jun 2013 #87

"Liberals are not libertarians or anarchists." Could someone let 2/3 of GD know this, please?? Number23 Jun 2013 #7

Correct. Want change? Change Congress. They passed it. Obama has asked them to change his powers freshwest Jun 2013 #12

This is rather thin gruel. reusrename Jun 2013 #63

This does not seem in any way to be a response to what Number23 Jun 2013 #75

I don't know why I put it here. I should never open more than one tab in my browser. reusrename Jun 2013 #76

Don't feel bad. I've done the same thing Number23 Jun 2013 #77

This thread isn't going to be w/o controversy. longship Jun 2013 #10

Everyone who protests against this idea is being noted.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #13

Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Jun 2013 #14

It can't be said enough right now. Kath1 Jun 2013 #18

Obama is no liberal. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #15

President Obama is Progressive and he's quite Liberal on so many issues. Cha Jun 2013 #27

Thank you, OKNancy! Kath1 Jun 2013 #16

And where is that unrec button when you need it? Fuddnik Jun 2013 #17

+1 MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #30

This is nothing more than humbled_opinion Jun 2013 #21

As opposed to your "group think"? You just happen to be in the wrong Cha Jun 2013 #26

No shit!!! "George W. Obama"???? NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #66

Yes, but the links to the appropriate group are not allowed at DU. freshwest Jun 2013 #88

President Sarah Palin could not figure out how to abuse it treestar Jun 2013 #38

The you for posting, OKNancy, but . . . Jack Rabbit Jun 2013 #24

Which is why I detest labels. DeSwiss Jun 2013 #28

But, you don't mind ignorantly flying your BS flag. Cha Jun 2013 #42

It is a question of balance treestar Jun 2013 #37

This OP has been like pheromone sprinkled flypaper. stevenleser Jun 2013 #40

And, deservedly so. NYC_SKP Jun 2013 #71

evidence that the program is not even legal-- NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #51

That is wrong information. For starters, two of those cases are regarding Bush warrantless stevenleser Jun 2013 #72

Rebuttal to this? NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #73

Do you understand why FISA has been upheld and before its existence, warrantless wiretapping was stevenleser Jun 2013 #74

because appeals court justices are predominantly conservative assholes? NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #80

That flippant suggestion might work if it wasn't 60+ years of caselaw we were talking about stevenleser Jun 2013 #81

except a lot has changed in 60+ years NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #90

As I noted in what I wrote. stevenleser Jun 2013 #91

Anyone who wants to think clearly about this, go to Steven's link, read it or get the podcast. freshwest Jun 2013 #89

This is a really good article. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #85

the point is whether this massive data collection helps or hinders. NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #92