Election Reform

Thinkingabout

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46. Nothing new here, the what ifs has not been proven. Apparently you do not like voting machines, I

Tue Aug 18, 2015, 08:06 PM

Aug 2015

don't trust the paper ballots, neither may be an exact science. Having a piece of paper in your hand does not prevent distortion in the results. With the count verification of the votes cast at the end of the day in the precincts I have worked in will give an accurate number of votes to the number of people signing in to vote. I would be more concerned about nefarious stuffing of a ballot box with paper ballots someone else delivered rather than the voters.

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What does Bernie believe about the ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINES? [View all] Stevepol May 2015 OP

I write about this a lot in FLA. A stronger audit of paper ballots against machine totals is needed. TheNutcracker May 2015 #1

We should make it an issue lovelydestruction Dec 2015 #47

Long past time Vincardog May 2015 #2

Read these links! Baobab May 2016 #48

I would add that people interested should Google William Spoonamore. Dustlawyer Aug 2016 #51

The 'Hursti Hack' of the Optical Scan machines Hacking_Democracy Aug 2016 #52

Thanks for bringing this up. SusanCalvin May 2015 #3

Paper ballots, hand counted, in public, cameras rolling. Nothing less. Scuba May 2015 #4

Yes, yes, yes! kath Jun 2015 #16

Yes Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #19

"Belief" is not enough. Peace Patriot May 2015 #5

Have you ever worked in Early Voting or voting on Election Day? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #7

That has nothing to do with the vote count accuracy. n/t Wilms Jun 2015 #22

If your claim iscorrect then show the facts, I have presented my information. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #23

Nice try. Wilms Jun 2015 #24

Nice try on your part, this is appearing to be another CT. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #26

. Wilms Jun 2015 #28

. GoneFishin Jun 2015 #29

Guess I have my answer. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #31

Showing the Facts Stevepol Aug 2015 #40

I understand entirely, I need to see some facts and not conspiracy therory. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #42

It is a FACT that voting machines are UNVERIFIABLE Stevepol Aug 2015 #43

We also found the paper ballots in Florida was not verifible, this has been proven. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #45

In Florida the printed paper poll tapes are a public record of the election. Hacking_Democracy Aug 2016 #53

It doesn't appear paper ballots helped the DNC in 2000, in fact it cost Gore the election. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #6

Boston uses a paper ballot that you can choose to mark with a pencil--no chad issues--or merrily Jun 2015 #8

Did you know on the Diebold machines you are given a review of your ballot? Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #25

Review is irrelevant unless you have written verification. merrily Jun 2015 #27

Having dealt with pencil strokes for several years I don't find this was an accurate system of Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #33

Testimony in Congress was that it was very easy to program the software to cheat. Not that anyone merrily Jun 2015 #34

Did I say I dealt with pencil strokes on ballots? Louisiana went to electric machines as early as Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #35

The software is easy to rig. That is not even debatable. merrily Jun 2015 #36

Yes, this is why so many people, monitors, companies, grocery stores, etc use computers. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #37

Total non sequitur fail. merrily Jun 2015 #38

When you get a valid argument we can resume. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #39

Banks, grocery stores, etc. Stevepol Aug 2015 #41

What "cost Gore the election" was the US Supreme Court sketchy Jun 2015 #9

I do not engage in CT, electronic voting and counting is more accurate. Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #10

Do you engage in mathematics? sketchy Jun 2015 #11

Are you saying mathematician are not capable of CT? Do you think paper ballots can not be Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #12

No, I am not saying "mathematician are not capable of CT" sketchy Jun 2015 #13

Do Democrats care enough to demand that the votes are never left alone in the hands Cal33 Jun 2015 #15

Are you serious? Hiw long have you been voting electronically or with Thinkingabout Jun 2015 #17

If there are both Dem. and Repub. people present at all times with the votes, the Cal33 Jun 2015 #20

Here's an interesting event you may enjoy reading Stevepol Aug 2015 #44

Nothing new here, the what ifs has not been proven. Apparently you do not like voting machines, I Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #46

The voting machine totals can be rigged to match the voter sign in books. Hacking_Democracy Aug 2016 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author Thinkingabout Aug 2016 #50

I've been harping on this for years, and the Democratic Party hasn't Cal33 Jun 2015 #14

I suspect that they have benefitted in some more convoluted way. Maybe it helps in their primary GoneFishin Jun 2015 #32

This is actually one of the few things that NC has gotten right. Persondem Jun 2015 #18

fair 1STWURLDVIEW Jun 2015 #21

We need a paper record verified by the voter, on hand, available for a recount. Period. Anybody who GoneFishin Jun 2015 #30