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Emrys

(7,944 posts)
56. The Scottish Parliament will be a totally different contest
Fri Jul 5, 2024, 07:41 AM
Jul 2024

It'll be run under our version of PR, for one thing, with a different franchise that includes 16-18-year-olds and legal residents who aren't British subjects.

It will be after two years of Labour being in power, so the ball's in their court to start to deliver on what promises they've made and for the electorate to see what their representatives actually do in terms of representing Scotland. Past form for Labour when it held vast numbers of seats in Scotland don't give much grounds for optimism, and the new intake includes a few who were rejected by the electorate in past UK elections.

And on the ballot will be initiatives by Scottish Governments over the years to mitigate some of the worst aspects of Tory austerity through mitigating such things as the two-child cap on benefits and the "rape clause", free prescriptions for all, free tuition in Scottish universities for inhabitants of Scotland and a whole number of things that Labour may decide are "unaffordable". And if rumblings come to fruition, Holyrood's powers may be eroded. We'll see how the polls shift, but support for independence still ran at around 50% in the most recent polls, and a substantial percentage of Labour voters even before this election supported it. If the other parties have refused to accept that any sort of majority in Scotland was a mandate for a referendum, it will be awkward (but predictable) if they now argue that a lack of a majority means there is no mandate or appetite.

Part of the problem is that the media and Labour deliberately fudged what are devolved powers and what are reserved to Westminster. Let's not forget that Scottish media have always been Labour-friendly and all but one newspaper and all of the TV and radio stations are SNP-hostile, though that hasn't been enough to fend off SNP sucesses in the past. During this election, Labour's Scottish leader Anas Sarwar even castigated the Scottish Government for policies his party supported in Holyrood! He'll have to decide on which side his bread is buttered. Maybe the media will even focus on calling him out for his hypocrisy, which they did begin to do belatedly in the later stages of this election, and he floundered horribly.

The Greens' gains are one of the silver linings for me from election night. I hope it's a foot (or several feet) in the door, because that trend for Reform getting more media attention than it deserves is likely to continue.

And through it all, turnout was poor across the country, and the polling shows that by far the main reason for voting Labour was to get the Tories out rather than approval of any of their policies. That was Labour's message in Scotland, and it obviously cut through because it was glib and exhaustingly repeated.

I could touch on other issues like the election happening when Scottish schools have already broken up for the summer, meaning that quite a few people had holidays scheduled, and there were widespread reports of postal vote forms not arriving. I don't know whether that would have had a significant effect on any outcomes as presumably its effects were not restricted to one party, but the UK Government were warned last year that it was going to be a problem, and they did nothing to address it, nor did Sunak seem at all concerned when he was asked about it during the campaign. That sort of thing shouldn't be an issue in the Holyrood election.

All the reactions I've seen from the SNP so far have been suitably humble and avoiding blaming the voters or trotting out any rationalizations that might actually be valid, but better addressed at another time, which is undoubtedly the wisest course at the moment.

Who's your MP? [View all] T_i_B Apr 2015 OP
Nicola Blackwood (useless Tory twit) LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #1
The good news is that it's a tiny Tory majority T_i_B Apr 2015 #4
Not a huge chance, but some chance LeftishBrit Apr 2015 #5
Same thing with Tory posters here. T_i_B Apr 2015 #6
Ian Lavery non sociopath skin Apr 2015 #2
Steve Brine - bland Tory in his 40s muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #3
Tracey Crouch (CON) Anarcho-Socialist Apr 2015 #7
Went to a local debate last night T_i_B May 2015 #8
I would always be suspicious of an applicant for any job... LeftishBrit May 2015 #9
As I think I've mentioned before on this thread T_i_B May 2015 #10
Election day kick T_i_B May 2015 #11
Nicola Blockhead, who un-represents me, increased her majority (ugh) LeftishBrit May 2015 #12
Engel scraped in with a reduced majority T_i_B May 2015 #13
2017 General election kick T_i_B May 2017 #14
Brendan O'Hara Denzil_DC May 2017 #15
It panned out much as I expected/as well as I could have hoped. Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #21
It's still Brendan O'Hara, and he's standing again. Emrys May 2024 #42
Still Nicola Blackwood -Oxford West and Abingdon LeftishBrit May 2017 #16
Jeremy Corbyn RogueTrooper May 2017 #17
Judging by the pony-ness of the LibDem campaign thus far RogueTrooper May 2017 #18
Still, could be worse than Lib Dems..... T_i_B May 2017 #19
I now have a Conservative MP - Lee Rowley T_i_B Jun 2017 #20
More on my new MP T_i_B Jun 2017 #25
Ugh. Sounds awful. LeftishBrit Jun 2017 #26
Just had my first correspondance with him T_i_B Jun 2017 #27
I should add at this point... T_i_B Oct 2019 #35
Nicola Blackwood lost! LeftishBrit Jun 2017 #22
Congratulations!!!!! T_i_B Jun 2017 #23
As of today The King of Prussia Jun 2017 #24
An update on my former Labour MP T_i_B Dec 2017 #28
Another update..... T_i_B Oct 2018 #29
John Grogan The King of Prussia Oct 2018 #30
I lived in the Arfon constituency for a time. geardaddy Oct 2018 #31
Update on my ex-MP LeftishBrit Dec 2018 #32
Anne Milton (Guildford). mwooldri Jan 2019 #33
2019 General election kick T_i_B Oct 2019 #34
Still Steve Brine, as a carefully worded card through the letterbox this morning reminded me muriel_volestrangler Oct 2019 #36
Emma Dent Coad, Labour (Kensington) Celerity Oct 2019 #37
Still Layla Moran; hope that continues after Dec. 12th LeftishBrit Nov 2019 #38
2024 General Election kick T_i_B May 2024 #39
New boundaries, new MP muriel_volestrangler May 2024 #40
Definitely hope you get the result you want T_i_B May 2024 #41
A bit of an aside... mwooldri Jun 2024 #48
Miriam Cates is bloody vile LeftishBrit May 2024 #44
A lot of people really want Marie Tidball to get in T_i_B May 2024 #45
Met Marie Tidball last night T_i_B Jun 2024 #46
Still Layla Moran (LibDem) LeftishBrit May 2024 #43
2024 update: New constituency. mwooldri Jun 2024 #47
2 recent MRP polls both show the Lib Dem leading there, but with quite different margins muriel_volestrangler Jun 2024 #49
I haven't posted much about Scotland in the upcoming election, Emrys Jun 2024 #50
Unsurprisingly, I have a new MP T_i_B Jul 2024 #51
Liz Jarvis, the Lib Dem, took Eastleigh, as had seemed likely, but not certain muriel_volestrangler Jul 2024 #54
What a shitty night for the SNP Emrys Jul 2024 #52
Not many more MP's than the independents! T_i_B Jul 2024 #53
The independents with a Gaza stance were one thing not predicted much muriel_volestrangler Jul 2024 #55
The Scottish Parliament will be a totally different contest Emrys Jul 2024 #56
I finally managed to find the results for Brendan O'Hara's constituency Emrys Jul 2024 #57
Oxfordshire results interesting LeftishBrit Jul 2024 #58
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