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Denzil_DC

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16. He could be a beneficiary. But the EU was expected to implode with Brexit. It hasn't.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 10:05 AM
Sep 2019

Last edited Tue Sep 3, 2019, 03:10 PM - Edit history (1)

One counter to that argument would be to ask how potentially closer ties between the UK and US would benefit him and his cabal in the longer term (assuming the US manages to extract itself from its current Russian influence in future). But then maybe Putin doesn't do longer term.

As for who in the UK is benefiting, I could draw up a list.

It would include our current prime minister, who wouldn't be in power if not for this clusterfuck, and a whole range of predatory disaster capitalists from Rees-Mogg via the various other millionaires at the top of our media and government (including Farage) who're already salivating at the prospect of collaborating with US interests to complete the privatization of the NHS etc. to hedge fund managers and the likes of nihilistic libertarians like Cummings and the ex-Revolutionary Communist Party members like Claire Fox grouped around Spiked and elected as MEPs in the aftermath of entryism into the Brexit Party. (I'm not clear how in thrall to Putin that last group are, but they're certainly as opportunist as he is.)

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I can't understand why the UK is doing this Brexit thing, seems like a total loser to me. katmondoo Sep 2019 #1
Common sense has little to do with it, and the EU is partly to blame. DFW Sep 2019 #4
Brexit was sold to the Brits based on lies and fear RVN VET71 Sep 2019 #11
Same thing that's happening in the U.S. Grokenstein Sep 2019 #7
A number of reasons The King of Prussia Sep 2019 #8
Rather than "Let's just get it over with" DFW Sep 2019 #2
Of course it's ripping up the UK. That's what Putin wanted when he funded the campaign. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #3
...and did I mention PUTIN and his MOB are going for our 2020 elections too? DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #5
Rifts in the EU and NATO definitely serve Russian interests more than any of ours. n/t DFW Sep 2019 #6
It's interesting that non-UK-based DU members always jump so quickly to blame "PUTIN!!!". Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #10
You are missing the essence. ALL MOBS, indeed all monopolies, are killing democracy. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #12
I don't believe I'm missing anything. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #14
I don't necessarily blame Putin as a main cause, just a big beneficiary DFW Sep 2019 #15
He could be a beneficiary. But the EU was expected to implode with Brexit. It hasn't. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #16
You really think it was Putin? The King of Prussia Sep 2019 #17
I'm sorry you feel that way... DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #18
They're free to disagree. It's still not persuasive. Denzil_DC Sep 2019 #19
Time to reclassify 'Lord of the Flies' as a dystopian prediction? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2019 #9
It's not the people spreading chaos. ALL MOBS, indeed all monopolies, are killing democracy. DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #13
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