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hunter

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13. Reservoirs are useless if there isn't enough rain or snow to fill them.
Fri Oct 29, 2021, 02:44 PM
Oct 2021

Look at Lake Mead or Lake Powell.

California already has a very large reservoir capacity and has reached the point of diminishing returns when it comes to building new reservoirs.

The Sites Project may be the last.

Building more reservoirs and praying for the rain to fill them is a kind of cargo cult mentality, similar to the belief that rain follows the plow. It doesn't. The ancestors of many Central Valley farmers believed the rain follows the plow myth which is how they ended up in California when the Dust Bowl proved them wrong. Now they are saying "build more reservoirs!"

The same can be said of California's solar and wind capacity. We are installing more with the same cult like fervor.

Early solar and wind projects displace gas power kilowatt-for-kilowatt. As the capacity of the power grid is reached, adding more solar panels and wind turbines doesn't displace any gas generated power. Additional solar panels and wind turbines are increasingly useless

If I was Emperor of California I'd save water by shutting down the factory farm dairy industry. I don't consider cheap hamburger and dairy products any kind of human right. I'm not overtly hostile to almond farming so long as groundwater extraction is carefully regulated.

As Emperor I'd also restore a lot of existing farmland to a somewhat natural state, mostly land that should never have been farmed in the first place.

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Agreed, and I have written to the governor and my legislators about this. Building water pipe JohnSJ Oct 2021 #1
Great idea ... Auggie Oct 2021 #5
A question: Miguelito Loveless Oct 2021 #2
The result is very concentrated salt water. It is typically dumped back into the ocean. PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #10
You can't be better placed than have your whole state running along the ocean. PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #3
You can't be better placed than to be called "The Sunshine State" either Auggie Oct 2021 #4
Reservoirs are useless if there isn't enough rain or snow to fill them. hunter Oct 2021 #13
ROFL Auggie Oct 2021 #18
Thanks. That's how I often frame my political thought experiments. hunter Oct 2021 #19
As I understand it, one of the biggest challenges to desalination is energy usage Clash City Rocker Oct 2021 #6
Desalination is part of the package; not the only solution Auggie Oct 2021 #8
I got curious about this awhile back and looked at desalinification plant pics. Those would be brewens Oct 2021 #7
Build them inland? Auggie Oct 2021 #9
Reverse Osmosis? modrepub Oct 2021 #11
Golf courses OneCrazyDiamond Oct 2021 #16
Burning natural gas to desalinate water is insane. hunter Oct 2021 #12
Yeah, because mucking with the environment never has bad consequences Retrograde Oct 2021 #14
California agriculture has benefited greatly from very low cost water. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2021 #15
Well it's certainly something California should be thinking about and planning for IcyPeas Oct 2021 #17
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