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bemildred

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83. It seems very up in the air.

Thu Jul 17, 2014, 11:25 AM

Jul 2014

There are several wannabe intermediaries, for one thing, and the shooting has resumed for another. I do think there is a cease-fire and/or truce coming, but not yet. I think it likely that the UNSC will weigh in, but it could take some time, or not.

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Breaking: Fresh Israel-Gaza Ceasefire agreed to in Egypt; to take effect 0400 GMT Friday [View all] flpoljunkie Jul 2014 OP

Interesting that the article cites the 3 ineffectual mortars fired at Israel Orrex Jul 2014 #1

Hopefully Hamas keeps the promise yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #2

LOL. Sure. Orrex Jul 2014 #3

It seems to have caused another cease fire yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #4

Israel keeps trying to do what? Kill 200 civilians? Orrex Jul 2014 #6

hamas started it rdking647 Jul 2014 #7

And soon the world is blind. Orrex Jul 2014 #20

Israel can manage alot more carnage if it wanted too bossy22 Jul 2014 #26

Reality disagrees with you about their primary goal. Orrex Jul 2014 #34

That's fine, but... Chan790 Jul 2014 #31

Baby killers. The Stranger Jul 2014 #105

Your right Hamas are baby killers yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #112

Little people don't seem to matter so ballyhoo Jul 2014 #5

it wont stop until hams stops firing missles at civilians rdking647 Jul 2014 #8

If you land on my street and slowly steal it, then ballyhoo Jul 2014 #9

You're wanting Israel wiped out? IronGate Jul 2014 #11

I want all countries who bomb little ballyhoo Jul 2014 #15

You didn't answer my question, IronGate Jul 2014 #16

I'm not here to answer your questions, particularly those ballyhoo Jul 2014 #19

You're the one who said this IronGate Jul 2014 #22

The antecedent to "wipes out the enemy" is ballyhoo Jul 2014 #24

But you would support that "friend" wiping out Israel? nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #33

It would depend on what Israel ballyhoo Jul 2014 #38

But Israel hasn't even come close to that, IronGate Jul 2014 #41

As you wish. Hasn't come close to ballyhoo Jul 2014 #43

And who do you think has said time and time again IronGate Jul 2014 #48

Who did all that? The organization defending ballyhoo Jul 2014 #51

This is good. IronGate Jul 2014 #57

And yours is the organization that shoots ballyhoo Jul 2014 #60

Once again, IronGate Jul 2014 #64

So cause Hamas didn't accept the cease fire Bodhi BloodWave Jul 2014 #76

Do you have proof that those 4 youths were the target? IronGate Jul 2014 #78

So Israel fired at the area blindly then? Bodhi BloodWave Jul 2014 #87

That was answered by another poster's link. Thus Hamas may be acting as a proxy in an old game: freshwest Jul 2014 #115

what about groups who fire rockets at civilians bossy22 Jul 2014 #18

Yes, but not for that reason. Palistine perceives it is on its ballyhoo Jul 2014 #21

You have any proof those youths were the intended target? nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #23

Is this a trial? I have my beliefs based ballyhoo Jul 2014 #27

IOW, you have no proof? IronGate Jul 2014 #36

Baloney. These are simply fabricated reports by ballyhoo Jul 2014 #42

And I want the same from you, but so far............. IronGate Jul 2014 #44

Ok ballyhoo, you really have enjoyed the kool aid a bit too much here.... lexx21 Jul 2014 #67

Ah,now I'm an anti-semite... ballyhoo Jul 2014 #69

Everything you've said here so far would leave one to believe that. nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #71

My best friends "are" AA's. Do you have something ballyhoo Jul 2014 #73

How do you know I'm not a black person? IronGate Jul 2014 #77

Good. I think not-- ballyhoo Jul 2014 #80

You think not what? IronGate Jul 2014 #98

Sorry "slick"... lexx21 Jul 2014 #72

I am advocating help for the Palistinians if Israel ballyhoo Jul 2014 #75

You have first hand knowledge of the Israeli commander who gave the order to fire? IronGate Jul 2014 #40

you have your beliefs based on a hatred for israel rdking647 Jul 2014 #96

do you have any proof? bossy22 Jul 2014 #29

I believe that. But the ruler will have his way. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #45

So, IOW, you have no proof? IronGate Jul 2014 #53

I have all the proof I need over years ballyhoo Jul 2014 #55

You mean like the terror org Hamas IronGate Jul 2014 #61

No, the terror organization Israel firing ballyhoo Jul 2014 #63

Missiles that Israel would never have fired if not for IronGate Jul 2014 #65

Sorry, you're full of shit HERVEPA Jul 2014 #56

Oh, an accident now?........ ballyhoo Jul 2014 #66

Do you have any proof, other than your beliefs, that this wasn't an accident? nt. IronGate Jul 2014 #70

I'll just take a really wild guess here HERVEPA Jul 2014 #88

so israel is trying to enslave palastinians? bossy22 Jul 2014 #17

I believe that-- ballyhoo Jul 2014 #32

After the United States yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #39

Disproportionate response is illegal. Chan790 Jul 2014 #35

Thank you Orrex Jul 2014 #47

which was not the intended target bossy22 Jul 2014 #13

Not much a difference to the families of hte dead children, I suspect. Orrex Jul 2014 #25

It is the fault of the terror org, Hamas. IronGate Jul 2014 #37

As always, Israel is painted as the victim Orrex Jul 2014 #46

Pure speculation........ ballyhoo Jul 2014 #49

Pure speculation? IronGate Jul 2014 #50

IMO, they'd still be dead. There is your answer. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #52

Why would they still be dead? IronGate Jul 2014 #54

I don't believe that--That ship would have ballyhoo Jul 2014 #58

It will be over this year? IronGate Jul 2014 #59

Just the opposite. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #62

So, you do want Israel wiped off the map. IronGate Jul 2014 #68

Hamas broke the cease fire, as they always do. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #74

Then by all means, let's kill 200 civilians Orrex Jul 2014 #81

Hamas keeps trying to, but Iron Dome works better than human shields. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #84

One would hope that the state claiming moral authority would act with morality Orrex Jul 2014 #94

Um, you're the one making excuses for Hamas' policy of deliberately creating civilian casualties Fozzledick Jul 2014 #100

You're identifying the alleged targeting of civilans as worse than the actual bombing of civilians Orrex Jul 2014 #102

Here's a couple that just happen to be handy. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #104

The first is from a site called "idfblog." Does that seem like an objective source to you? Orrex Jul 2014 #107

You can find it yourself if you want to. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #108

Requiring someone else to document your claims for you is a bullshit tactic Orrex Jul 2014 #109

This has been hashed over endlessly in I/P. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #110

This isn't I/P Orrex Jul 2014 #113

I've given you enough for any reasonable person. Now you're just playing games. Fozzledick Jul 2014 #116

You've multiply restated your opinion Orrex Jul 2014 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #79

I hope so. But my intent... Orrex Jul 2014 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #95

I'm gratified to hear this. Orrex Jul 2014 #114

The headline is now "Israel-Gaza ceasefire deal denied" nt bemildred Jul 2014 #10

Here is the URL, bemildred... ballyhoo Jul 2014 #12

I'm talking about the BBC URL at the top. bemildred Jul 2014 #14

I see that. I don't understand how that happened. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #28

Mosty likely, they changed it without changing the URL. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #82

It seems very up in the air. bemildred Jul 2014 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #86

Oh yes, they are talking about it, negotiating. bemildred Jul 2014 #91

This message was self-deleted by its author lostincalifornia Jul 2014 #97

The Leverage, Sir, Seems To Be Threat Of Ground Invasion The Magistrate Jul 2014 #89

Reason will only take you so far with these things, Sir. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #92

True, My Friend The Magistrate Jul 2014 #93

It seems like a dead end all around, Sir. bemildred Jul 2014 #99

We need a smilie libodem Jul 2014 #85

during the cease fire hamas fired at least 3 mortars at israel rdking647 Jul 2014 #101

the un found 20 rockets hidden in a vacant school in gaza rdking647 Jul 2014 #103

I'll believe it when it happens. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #106

Hudna Rhinodawg Jul 2014 #111

My thanks to those tireless people who work to arrange such ceasefires Babel_17 Jul 2014 #118