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Reply to former9thward (Reply #84)

Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:00 PM

Feb 2014

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U.S. Army considering removing portraits of Confederate Generals Lee and 'Stonewall' Jackson from sc [View all] Judi Lynn Dec 2013 OP

Oh boy, this should get stupid pretty fast... nt winstars Dec 2013 #1

Not only seditious, but looking at losers also dampens enthusiasm Tom Ripley Dec 2013 #2

How about renaming Ft. Bragg, Ft. Hood, Ft. Benning, Ft. Gordon, and maybe dozens more? . . . Journeyman Dec 2013 #3

9 Army installations GP6971 Dec 2013 #7

How about changing Fort Gordon to Fort William Tecumseh Sherman and doc03 Dec 2013 #12

No. Rename Fort Bragg to Fort William Tecumseh Sherman. jmowreader Dec 2013 #85

And... JimboBillyBubbaBob Dec 2013 #77

Yep. Kingofalldems Feb 2014 #91

I didn't know those were named after confederates--that sucks. yurbud Feb 2014 #97

Why not have Rommel and Santa Ana up there as well? nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #4

if it was great generals of world history or great generals we have faced, that would be ok yurbud Feb 2014 #98

I'd probably be against this PatrynXX Dec 2013 #5

It's not removong them from history, it's removing them from an honor. Thor_MN Dec 2013 #31

Benedict Arnold was an American, should we honor him as well? Bandit Dec 2013 #50

I don't think any member of the Confederate Army was ever charged with treason. Kaleva Dec 2013 #63

It was part of Grant's surrender bargain warrant46 Feb 2014 #96

It's not denying history... it's simply denying glorification to those who fought against America LanternWaste Dec 2013 #80

They should not do it. They are part of the history of the of the country. This is not the same lostincalifornia Dec 2013 #6

Benedict Arnold is far more deserving of honor than these Confederates WatermelonRat Dec 2013 #53

Same thing for GP6971 Dec 2013 #70

No, it was the whole "trying to carve his own private country out of the Louisiana Purchase" thing WatermelonRat Dec 2013 #74

Because after the war... bobclark86 Dec 2013 #8

Well, that was why skepticscott Dec 2013 #11

Not all atreides1 Dec 2013 #25

Well, what they did constituted black letter treason skepticscott Dec 2013 #9

Agree with this. KatyMan Dec 2013 #26

Not as badly as you would be skepticscott Dec 2013 #29

Like being a Native American going to Custer High School. progressoid Dec 2013 #39

Custer was kind of a dickhead anyway skepticscott Dec 2013 #45

That's about all they have. progressoid Dec 2013 #52

Should we rename Washington DC? NobodyHere Dec 2013 #60

We should NoGOPZone Dec 2013 #78

Robert E. Lee High School in Fairfax County, VA. Student profile: kwassa Dec 2013 #66

Because we're a nation of laws, and they were pardoned and cleared of their crimes. Xithras Dec 2013 #75

Lee and Jackson were very capable leaders and tacticians 1000words Dec 2013 #10

No harm in studying their campaigns skepticscott Dec 2013 #13

You can still respect your enemy 1000words Dec 2013 #15

"Respect" and "honor" are not the same skepticscott Dec 2013 #18

Fair enough 1000words Dec 2013 #20

To the extent it is still being fought skepticscott Dec 2013 #23

And that's the problem in a nutshell. Major Hogwash Dec 2013 #73

This. Orsino Feb 2014 #94

As soon as Confederate Battle flags are removed from government offices, I imagine it will be... LanternWaste Dec 2013 #81

So was Rommel. And Sepp KatyMan Dec 2013 #27

If the criteria is military excellence, yes. Alas, this is a political statement. 1000words Dec 2013 #32

So should they be honored with portraits? KatyMan Dec 2013 #34

My perspective mirrors that of the Zulu 1000words Dec 2013 #36

Revere Nazis. Ok n/t KatyMan Dec 2013 #37

If oversimplication is the goal ... we have reached the end game. 1000words Dec 2013 #38

it wasn't an oversimplification. KatyMan Dec 2013 #40

It's likely Gen. Colin Powell's portrait hangs at the institution 1000words Dec 2013 #43

so take it down. KatyMan Dec 2013 #46

Alas ... we agree! 1000words Dec 2013 #48

same to you 1KW... KatyMan Dec 2013 #49

And you, as well. 1000words Dec 2013 #51

Your position was taken to a valid and logical conclusion. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #82

Well.. A traitor is a traitor. CBGLuthier Dec 2013 #14

This is no different than Stalin airbrushing Trotsky out of photos. former9thward Dec 2013 #16

Great point! There is a whole book about this. Sognefjord Dec 2013 #19

Oh please. No one is talking about erasing all record skepticscott Dec 2013 #22

If the logic is that they should be banned because they are traitors ... former9thward Dec 2013 #28

As noted, remembering them and honoring them are not at all the same skepticscott Dec 2013 #47

+1 CFLDem Dec 2013 #76

Removing a portrait from a government building is precisely the same thing as historical revisionism LanternWaste Dec 2013 #83

Everything has a starting point. former9thward Dec 2013 #84

Oww. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #93

Do they have a portrait of Timothy McVeigh too? yurbud Dec 2013 #17

Confederate generals Steviehh Dec 2013 #21

either take them down or add Benedict Arnold eShirl Dec 2013 #24

There are 2 monuments to ------. Historic NY Dec 2013 #44

They were America hating traitors, nothing more. knr nt livingwagenow Dec 2013 #30

I hope there are no portraits of George Washington in Buckingham Palace (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2013 #33

Funnily KatyMan Dec 2013 #35

Abe Lincoln hangs out around Parliament... Historic NY Dec 2013 #41

Bit torn on this packman Dec 2013 #42

Maybe they could establish a separate area or room for the portraits. nt tblue37 Dec 2013 #54

Yeah, and call it the "Traitorous Fucks Who Resorted To War To Destroy The Country Room." tabasco Dec 2013 #55

Precisely. nt tblue37 Dec 2013 #56

Separate but equal, the way modern Confederates prefer nt geek tragedy Dec 2013 #72

Quite incorrect. tabasco Dec 2013 #88

I've been to Rockville many times and have never seen the statue. kwassa Dec 2013 #67

It was in 1964 packman Dec 2013 #68

It was moved for urban renewal. kwassa Dec 2013 #71

Bothered me packman Dec 2013 #86

Rockville Pike was the main highway between DC and Frederick. kwassa Dec 2013 #87

I remember that statue growing up there. Right in the middle of town. Kingofalldems Feb 2014 #92

Why now--for years they hang in honor--now they are placed on the ground? Supersedeas Dec 2013 #57

That is why I referred to the decision as a "political statement." 1000words Dec 2013 #65

So is Galileo's exoneration by the Church. Orsino Feb 2014 #95

Really? All this time they were given spots at the school? Wow!! LiberalFighter Dec 2013 #58

Military leadership hates Black people so much Ash_F Dec 2013 #59

By law, veterans of the Confederate military are considered US veterans. Kaleva Dec 2013 #61

Do we dishonor the grave sites of the fallen too? Supersedeas Dec 2013 #62

The grave of Confederate vets are treated the same as any US veteran's grave. Kaleva Dec 2013 #64

So true. n/t GP6971 Dec 2013 #69

Just like the Confederate flag............. 4bucksagallon Dec 2013 #79

I'd say remove them. They were treasonous enemies of the US Army. Pterodactyl Feb 2014 #89

Give them to The Citadel jsr Feb 2014 #90