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leveymg

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39. A past President stated this. Also, read Hersh's, The Samson Option
Tue Mar 5, 2013, 12:04 PM
Mar 2013

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The Samson Option: Israel's Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy is a 1991 book by Seymour Hersh. It details the history of Israel's nuclear weapons program and its effects on Israel-American relations. The "Samson Option" of the book's title refers to the nuclear strategy whereby Israel would launch a massive nuclear retaliatory strike if the state itself was being overrun, just as the Biblical figure Samson is said to have pushed apart the pillars of a Philistine temple, bringing down the roof and killing himself and thousands of Philistines who had gathered to see him humiliated.

According to The New York Times, Hersh relied on Ari Ben-Menashe, a former Israeli government employee who says he worked for Israeli intelligence, for much of his information on the state of the Israeli nuclear program. However, Hersh confirmed all of this information with at least one other source.[1]


President Nixon and Henry Kissinger both stated that Israel used its nuclear weapons to blackmailed the US, as actually occurred during the '73 War when the overrun scenario referenced above was a possibility, forcing the US to supply weapons to Israel in its war with Egypt and Syria. See, http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/29/world/middleeast/29nixon.html?_r=0

Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal Vexed Nixon

By DAVID STOUT
Published: November 29, 2007

WASHINGTON, Nov. 28 — In July 1969, as the world was spellbound by the Apollo 11 mission to the moon, President Richard M. Nixon and his close advisers were quietly fretting about a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. Their main worry was not a potential enemy of the United States, but one of America’s closest friends.

Tensions over Israel’s nuclear weapons cast a shadow over talks between Richard M. Nixon and Golda Meir in 1969.
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Mandatory Review Documents (nixon.archives.gov)
Memo From Kissinger to Nixon on the Israeli Nuclear Program (July 19, 1969)

“The Israelis, who are one of the few peoples whose survival is genuinely threatened, are probably more likely than almost any other country to actually use their nuclear weapons,” Henry A. Kissinger, the national security adviser, warned Mr. Nixon in a memorandum dated July 19, 1969 — part of a newly released trove of documents.

Israel’s nuclear arms program, which Israel has never officially conceded exists, was believed to have begun at least several years before, but it was causing special problems for the young Nixon administration.

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Damned if they do, damned if they don't Tempest Mar 2013 #1
What are the conditions placed on them? JDPriestly Mar 2013 #2
The U.S. has been moving the goal posts for years now on this issue. Tempest Mar 2013 #6
How about you explain what "conditions" that have been made that you cstanleytech Mar 2013 #10
But you mentioned "conditions." What are they? JDPriestly Mar 2013 #13
I often see the red herring used of "but Israel has nukes". cstanleytech Mar 2013 #15
well, there must be a reason why they have them reorg Mar 2013 #40
the conditions placed on Iran exceed their actual contractual obligations reorg Mar 2013 #38
Israel's nuclear program and weapons are irrelevant. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #4
From your perspective, not Iran's. n/t Tempest Mar 2013 #7
They can use that red herring all they want, doesn't relieve them of their duties. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #8
When the US applies sanctions on Israel to end its nuclear program, this will be the right thing leveymg Mar 2013 #14
Red herring, not a double standard. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #18
Israel's nuclear bombs are outside the NPT, and the initial batch were made of plutonium stolen from leveymg Mar 2013 #20
Well you got one thing correct, FINALLY. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #21
I'm surprised you didn't know about the Israeli theft of plutonium from a US Navy nuclear plant, leveymg Mar 2013 #22
Oh...that explains it. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #23
And pretty obviously untrue. If it is US plutonium, I am sure we gave it to them. stevenleser Mar 2013 #24
Yup, especially given the nature of those sites. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #25
If you prefer the term, diversion of U.S. nuclear materials to Israel, that's still illegal under leveymg Mar 2013 #26
How can Israel be in violation leftynyc Mar 2013 #27
The US is in violation of the NPT for diversion; Israel in violation of US law for receipt leveymg Mar 2013 #28
You just asserted it was a theft. Now because it suits your purposes, you are saying it was transfer stevenleser Mar 2013 #29
If the transfer was authorized, it was diversion. If unauthorized, theft. Take your pick. leveymg Mar 2013 #32
Again, that analogy doesnt work. Israel never signed the NPT. If you want to assert hypocrisy your stevenleser Mar 2013 #34
Yawn leftynyc Mar 2013 #31
No, not up in arms. I don't expect that Israel will be prosecuted, but I don't think sanctions on leveymg Mar 2013 #35
Sorry, leftynyc Mar 2013 #36
A past President stated this. Also, read Hersh's, The Samson Option leveymg Mar 2013 #39
Here's more from that '07 NYT article about Israel's nuclear blackmail of the US leveymg Mar 2013 #41
Kissinger? That's who you want to hang leftynyc Mar 2013 #42
None of that makes Kissinger's statements about the diversion untrue, nor does it change the fact leveymg Mar 2013 #43
You are accusing Israel of leftynyc Mar 2013 #44
No, Israel cannot be in violation of a treaty it never signed and to which it is not a party. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #30
Steven, read more carefully. I said if not a theft, the transfer would be an NPT violation leveymg Mar 2013 #37
What do many think nineteen50 Mar 2013 #3
Of course they aren't. Cough cough. Myrina Mar 2013 #5
Oh, no, that's code for "We will liberate them soon" Blandocyte Mar 2013 #9
Odd, If that was the code then we should have invaded N. Korea by now. nt cstanleytech Mar 2013 #11
Well, if Iraq had actually possessed WMDs... I wouldn't have been against the war... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #12
You never seem to be a big fan of that freedom and democracy stuff cpwm17 Mar 2013 #16
"Nukes" are a pretext ronnie624 Mar 2013 #33
Are we sure this is LBNs? ripcord Mar 2013 #17
Video here Ash_F Mar 2013 #19
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