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7. From your perspective, not Iran's. n/t

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Mon Mar 4, 2013, 01:54 PM

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Nuclear watchdog agency says Iran not cooperating [View all] bananas Mar 2013 OP

Damned if they do, damned if they don't Tempest Mar 2013 #1

What are the conditions placed on them? JDPriestly Mar 2013 #2

The U.S. has been moving the goal posts for years now on this issue. Tempest Mar 2013 #6

How about you explain what "conditions" that have been made that you cstanleytech Mar 2013 #10

But you mentioned "conditions." What are they? JDPriestly Mar 2013 #13

I often see the red herring used of "but Israel has nukes". cstanleytech Mar 2013 #15

well, there must be a reason why they have them reorg Mar 2013 #40

the conditions placed on Iran exceed their actual contractual obligations reorg Mar 2013 #38

Israel's nuclear program and weapons are irrelevant. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #4

From your perspective, not Iran's. n/t Tempest Mar 2013 #7

They can use that red herring all they want, doesn't relieve them of their duties. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #8

When the US applies sanctions on Israel to end its nuclear program, this will be the right thing leveymg Mar 2013 #14

Red herring, not a double standard. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #18

Israel's nuclear bombs are outside the NPT, and the initial batch were made of plutonium stolen from leveymg Mar 2013 #20

Well you got one thing correct, FINALLY. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #21

I'm surprised you didn't know about the Israeli theft of plutonium from a US Navy nuclear plant, leveymg Mar 2013 #22

Oh...that explains it. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #23

And pretty obviously untrue. If it is US plutonium, I am sure we gave it to them. stevenleser Mar 2013 #24

Yup, especially given the nature of those sites. Behind the Aegis Mar 2013 #25

If you prefer the term, diversion of U.S. nuclear materials to Israel, that's still illegal under leveymg Mar 2013 #26

How can Israel be in violation leftynyc Mar 2013 #27

The US is in violation of the NPT for diversion; Israel in violation of US law for receipt leveymg Mar 2013 #28

You just asserted it was a theft. Now because it suits your purposes, you are saying it was transfer stevenleser Mar 2013 #29

If the transfer was authorized, it was diversion. If unauthorized, theft. Take your pick. leveymg Mar 2013 #32

Again, that analogy doesnt work. Israel never signed the NPT. If you want to assert hypocrisy your stevenleser Mar 2013 #34

Yawn leftynyc Mar 2013 #31

No, not up in arms. I don't expect that Israel will be prosecuted, but I don't think sanctions on leveymg Mar 2013 #35

Sorry, leftynyc Mar 2013 #36

A past President stated this. Also, read Hersh's, The Samson Option leveymg Mar 2013 #39

Here's more from that '07 NYT article about Israel's nuclear blackmail of the US leveymg Mar 2013 #41

Kissinger? That's who you want to hang leftynyc Mar 2013 #42

None of that makes Kissinger's statements about the diversion untrue, nor does it change the fact leveymg Mar 2013 #43

You are accusing Israel of leftynyc Mar 2013 #44

No, Israel cannot be in violation of a treaty it never signed and to which it is not a party. nt stevenleser Mar 2013 #30

Steven, read more carefully. I said if not a theft, the transfer would be an NPT violation leveymg Mar 2013 #37

What do many think nineteen50 Mar 2013 #3

Of course they aren't. Cough cough. Myrina Mar 2013 #5

Oh, no, that's code for "We will liberate them soon" Blandocyte Mar 2013 #9

Odd, If that was the code then we should have invaded N. Korea by now. nt cstanleytech Mar 2013 #11

Well, if Iraq had actually possessed WMDs... I wouldn't have been against the war... Comrade_McKenzie Mar 2013 #12

You never seem to be a big fan of that freedom and democracy stuff cpwm17 Mar 2013 #16

"Nukes" are a pretext ronnie624 Mar 2013 #33

Are we sure this is LBNs? ripcord Mar 2013 #17

Video here Ash_F Mar 2013 #19