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In reply to the discussion: Marine accused of killing 24 Iraqis in Haditha makes plea deal [View all]BeGoodDoGood
(201 posts)The first link I clicked on:
"William Kallop, who was a lieutenant in 2005 and is now a stockbroker in New York, said he believed insurgents inside the house were firing on Marines and thus the house could be deemed "hostile."
According to the rules of engagement, Wuterich and his Marines were justified in using any amount of firepower in assaulting a "hostile" structure without identifying whether the people inside were combatants, Kallop said."
They were fired on. The ROE allowed them to clear the building.
Now, I have never cleared a building in combat; I have done it in training.
If someone is firing at you FROM a building, you don't just go through the front door and say hello. The Marines have a little saying: "Enter every room with a boom." A grenade, a flash-bang grenade, a burst of gunfire, something. You just don't walk in.

Cpl. Dan Amaya

Sgt. Rafael Peralta
Both these Marines were killed in Iraq clearing buildings.
To say that S/Sgt Wuterich's men should have applied some other process in entering that building except to enter it with extreme violence is ludicrous.
What caused the death of all those people were the insurgents who fired on the Marines. They wanted to draw the Marines' fire so they could get the sympathy of ignorant, -safe- Americans like you.
Walt