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In reply to the discussion: Social Security Fairness Act clears Senate procedural hurdle, on path for final passage [View all]BumRushDaShow
(146,236 posts)34. You truly are lazy
You won't even bother looking something up. The internet is an amazing thing. The joke is on you.
Here is something to get you started (from my own state's (PA) page on it - https://www.pa.gov/agencies/dli/resources/for-claimants-workers/social-security-for-public-employees.html
Social Security Act Overview
When initially enacted in 1935, the Social Security Act (Act) did not include public employees as eligible for Social Security because of the constitutional question regarding the power of the federal government to tax state and local governments.
Since 1950, state and local employers have been able to offer Social Security coverage to their employees under an agreement between the commonwealth of Pennsylvania and the Social Security Administration (SSA), known as a Section 218 Agreement.
Section 218 of the Act permits a state to participate in Social Security coverage for its employees or employees of political subdivisions within the state. Many government employers did not have their own retirement systems. In 1950, the United States Congress amended the Act to allow states to voluntarily enter into agreements with SSA, on behalf of the Department of Health and Human Services.
Each state designated an official to administer the agreement on behalf of the state. This official is referred to as the State Social Security Administrator. In 1952, the Pennsylvania Department of Labor & Industry was designated by the Governor to administer the Amendments to the Act which permitted public employers to voluntarily provide their employees with Social Security coverage.
When initially enacted in 1935, the Social Security Act (Act) did not include public employees as eligible for Social Security because of the constitutional question regarding the power of the federal government to tax state and local governments.
Since 1950, state and local employers have been able to offer Social Security coverage to their employees under an agreement between the commonwealth of Pennsylvania and the Social Security Administration (SSA), known as a Section 218 Agreement.
Section 218 of the Act permits a state to participate in Social Security coverage for its employees or employees of political subdivisions within the state. Many government employers did not have their own retirement systems. In 1950, the United States Congress amended the Act to allow states to voluntarily enter into agreements with SSA, on behalf of the Department of Health and Human Services.
Each state designated an official to administer the agreement on behalf of the state. This official is referred to as the State Social Security Administrator. In 1952, the Pennsylvania Department of Labor & Industry was designated by the Governor to administer the Amendments to the Act which permitted public employers to voluntarily provide their employees with Social Security coverage.
The above tells you what the law WAS back when it was first passed and why there is this disparity. So get those broken fingers moving.
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Social Security Fairness Act clears Senate procedural hurdle, on path for final passage [View all]
BumRushDaShow
Dec 18
OP
Is this not "double-dipping"? If this hastens the SS cuts projected in 2033 - then do something to fix that!
walkingman
Dec 18
#1
As usual, a stupid move by excluding some jobs from paying into SS. Simple solution - everyone pays FICA taxes.
walkingman
Dec 18
#3
This generally covers people who worked at a job where they paid into SS and were fully vested
BumRushDaShow
Dec 18
#4
OK - that makes sense. But would it be the equiv of someone that paid into SS the entire 35 years?
walkingman
Dec 18
#7
If you mean their soc sec taxes remain in the portion of soc sec that's invested in treasury
Deminpenn
Dec 18
#12
And most people are ignorant of the fact that small business owners pay both parts of this contribution.
Hope22
Dec 19
#21
There are 14 states that have SS benefits "offset" for the last 20 plus years. Huge reduction in what you worked for.
Evolve Dammit
Dec 18
#5
I lost over 2/3. Of the 14 states that are affected, there are some big ones like CA, so it will probably never change.
Evolve Dammit
Dec 19
#25
Can You answer the above question - or than what you would have gotten if you paid your entire career into SS
walkingman
Dec 18
#8
worked 10 years in "private sector" and went to a State government job for 33 years? Clarify your question
Evolve Dammit
Dec 18
#9
Sure - it might be impossible to know, but I wonder if you had paid into SS your entire 43 years
walkingman
Dec 18
#11
I only want what I paid in for ten years. The offset is denying those SS earned credits.
Evolve Dammit
Dec 18
#15
Well back in 1986, a law was passed that put the feds under Social Security
BumRushDaShow
Dec 19
#28