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5. Yeah, and really any tank if our side doesn't totally control the air. It still couldn't be safe

Wed Mar 22, 2023, 03:03 PM

Mar 2023

with the infantry anti-tank weapons. That's why I'm surprised the Ukrainians have done as well with what tanks they have used so far. The Russians are supposed to make quality anti-tank rockets and missiles, similar to what the Ukrainians have been using against them. You could expect them to not be as good, but still dangerous. If the Russians don't have their guys all over trained and equipped with those, they have to be out of their minds.

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if incompetence prevented that. Maybe they never bothered to build enough, they are defective, possibly because they weren't maintained properly or something like that. They had huge cluster with their heavy vehicle tires. Whole convoys were stalled and sitting ducks.

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Russia is dusting off antique tanks from the 1940s, monitor group says, as its losses mount in Ukrai [View all] blue-wave Mar 2023 OP

They might be using them for other things other than front line combat such patrolling the varies cstanleytech Mar 2023 #1

That's pretty likely. Intimidation, more than anything else. Aristus Mar 2023 #32

Can you imagine orangecrush Mar 2023 #2

Yeah, and really any tank if our side doesn't totally control the air. It still couldn't be safe brewens Mar 2023 #5

Good points orangecrush Mar 2023 #7

Incompetence and corruption. bluescribbler Mar 2023 #13

If the US really got involved in Ukraine DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #37

It's another chapter of "the Russians aren't as powerful as we thought." yardwork Mar 2023 #46

The Israelis used a heavily-modified model of the Sherman as a second-line tank Aristus Mar 2023 #33

Interesting orangecrush Mar 2023 #35

By the end of WWII the Sherman model they called the "Easy 8" was vastly improved over brewens Mar 2023 #39

A Sherman against a Tiger was a daunting prospect Kennah Apr 2023 #58

if it was good enough for great grandpa ................ rurallib Mar 2023 #3

Russia lost thousands of those old hulks in the 40s. Stalin threw... TreasonousBastard Mar 2023 #4

and the tradition continues.... infullview Mar 2023 #8

Not the T-54 Layzeebeaver Mar 2023 #17

Or the tank equivalent of using prisoners for a specific purpose. Igel Mar 2023 #20

An inexperienced driver isn't going to be able to handle the T-55 in any purposeful manner. Aristus Mar 2023 #34

I'm amazed they'll run News Junkie Mar 2023 #52

In 8 months, it'll be muskets. 7 months after that will be armored suits on horses. nattyice Mar 2023 #6

They're going to run out of those too IronLionZion Mar 2023 #9

A massive stockpile of DENVERPOPS Mar 2023 #38

Since putin wants to go there, why not ...... LenaBaby61 Mar 2023 #10

Only issue UKR has with the M1 is logistics & training. oldsoftie Mar 2023 #25

And we are sending M-1 Tanks that as they are moving 50 mph can hit a target @ 500 meters or more Botany Mar 2023 #11

Kinetic energy rounds work better than HE rounds jmowreader Mar 2023 #14

The last big tank battle in Ukraine around Bakmut had the Russians loosing all but 2 of the tanks .. Botany Mar 2023 #15

Javelins? That surprises me. jmowreader Mar 2023 #21

Great orthoclad Mar 2023 #28

They also make tungsten penetrators jmowreader Mar 2023 #30

It's up to the Ukraine if they want to use the tank ammo we give them EX500rider Mar 2023 #45

Actually the depleted uranium shells aren't any more radioactive then granite is EX500rider Mar 2023 #53

I said nothing about radiation orthoclad Mar 2023 #54

You do realize the other object they would use would be lead EX500rider Mar 2023 #55

How long until the chariots come out? Renew Deal Mar 2023 #12

They're not the only museum pieces, either Warpy Mar 2023 #16

I do worry as Putin burns through people and equipment ... Kennah Mar 2023 #18

I don't think so, but no one can predict Putin jmowreader Mar 2023 #22

I wonder how many realize sarisataka Mar 2023 #19

But Ukr isn't a superpower Igel Mar 2023 #23

The advent of the T-54 sarisataka Mar 2023 #24

It depends on many factors Lithos Mar 2023 #26

Russia took them out of service late 70's/early 80's EX500rider Mar 2023 #41

Correct Lithos Mar 2023 #42

I've seen reports that RU can upgrade 7 T62s a month Kaleva Mar 2023 #50

Ammo's going to be a big problem EX500rider Mar 2023 #27

Again, I suspect they are going to a factory to be "upgraded" Lithos Mar 2023 #43

Assuming they can fit a larger gun in that turret EX500rider Mar 2023 #47

There are quite a few variants out there Lithos Mar 2023 #48

1st photos of the T-54/55's have already showed up in the Donbas EX500rider Apr 2023 #56

Saw as well Lithos Apr 2023 #57

Would you call those "septic tanks"? Wonder Why Mar 2023 #29

Coffins Kennah Apr 2023 #60

This reminds me of the game, Civilization . Oneironaut Mar 2023 #31

I'll bet they are incredible gas-guzzlers. Martin68 Mar 2023 #36

Good! Now NATO can dust off their older anti-tank weapons, and start using them up too! No sense SWBTATTReg Mar 2023 #40

"Open source photographs show T54 and T55 Soviet tanks, first put in service in the 1940's ..." mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2023 #44

don't they ever recycle anything? dembotoz Mar 2023 #49

Yeah I can't imagine the US military storing some M26 pershings for later use EX500rider Mar 2023 #51

Slovenia heavily upgraded T-55s into what become known as the M-55S Kennah Apr 2023 #59