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In reply to the discussion: DNC panel adopts rule requiring candidates to run, serve as a Democrat [View all]Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)73. Apparently, though, not interesting enough for you to read it with any care.
Your whole first paragraph, hectoring me about the 2016 general election, ignores the distinction that I drew. Bernie ran in the 2016 primaries; after the convention, he endorsed Clinton, and the overwhelming majority of his supporters (including your humble servant) voted for her. As should have been obvious, I was talking about a hypothetical election in which Bernie might not be allowed to run.
Then you go on at length about how bad Trump is. Duh, thats exactly why I think the Democratic Party needs to prioritize winning, as opposed to those who would prioritize their unquenchable hatred of Bernie Sanders.
You write:
Now it is threats? 2020 coming up and you say hundreds of thousands will withold their vote for a true Democrat if the DNC says a Independent running as a Dem they need to run in our party as a Democrat and STAY a Democrat once elected.
No, its not threats. Its a prediction. Its rather elementary logic that I can predict something will happen without endorsing it. The subject of my prediction is a possible 2020 race from which Bernie Sanders is excluded by rule, before a single vote is cast, and regardless of how much support he has from people who dont share the popular DU preoccupation with party labels. Condemn those peoples choice all you want thats your right but thats different from saying that no one will make that choice. My prediction is that an exclusion of that sort would alienate many voters and would therefore make it harder to defeat Trump (or whomever the Republicans nominate).
You write:
Well the DNC is part of our Democratic Party. We decide what is best for us. Join it or not.
I registered to vote as soon as I was eligible. I registered as a Democrat. Every time Ive moved, Ive registered at my new location pretty quickly, and always as a Democrat. This is my party, too, and I have as much right as any other Democrat to offer my opinion about what my party should do. Yes, "We decide," and I am part of the We.
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DNC panel adopts rule requiring candidates to run, serve as a Democrat [View all]
musette_sf
Jun 2018
OP
Sarandon was Green in 2000, and so was Michael Moore, and they both supported Nader, and
still_one
Jun 2018
#178
They didn't just boo Hillary Clinton, they booed the great American John Lewis. Very sad.
George II
Jun 2018
#53
Yes, but it was Sanders to Trump voters who gave Trump his margin of victory
lapucelle
Jun 2018
#116
Well then that would indicate to me that Obama was a far stronger candidate than Clinton
shanny
Jun 2018
#139
And yet, a lower percentage Bernie voters supported the other party on election day.
shanny
Jun 2018
#192
That is because Obama was able to excite more people to come out to vote.
LostOne4Ever
Jun 2018
#145
So if Jill Stein decides to hop on board for the money and the marketing resources
ehrnst
Jun 2018
#184
Yes. No open primaries. Now we're getting somewhere. No more divisive interlopers.
brush
Jun 2018
#100
Thank you Dems. Another reason to support the Party that looks out for the security of all
Wwcd
Jun 2018
#13
Are you saying in 2016 you were rejected and ignored and stuff? Is that what you mean?
Squinch
Jun 2018
#102
A bit of wild projection at the end there. You might want to watch that. I think it reveals
Squinch
Jun 2018
#123
"more than I want to reveal"? that's a laugh--it was friendly advice; take it, or don't
shanny
Jun 2018
#136
They're not kicking out non-Dems. This is ONLY about Presidential candidates. Very narrow.
Honeycombe8
Jun 2018
#169
"Your whole first paragraph, hectoring me about the 2016 general election, ignores the distinction t
sheshe2
Jun 2018
#78
It's ALWAYS threats, She. Usually threatening actions that hurt them as much as everyone else, but
Squinch
Jun 2018
#104
No, the point is that Stein wouldn't have to lie more. This time she could just tell the truth.
Jim Lane
Jun 2018
#37
It's not a question of "progressives", it's a question of DEMOCRATS! If you are a....
George II
Jun 2018
#41
How is it a loss for Dems? If they were Dems they'll already be registered as Dems.
brush
Jun 2018
#101
Yes, that's its scope, and I'm talking primarily about the race for President.
Jim Lane
Jun 2018
#127
I understood superdelegates were set up to block undesirable candidates from winning. nt
Lucky Luciano
Jun 2018
#48
can they also add that tax returns are to be provided if they are to get funding from the DNC..
samnsara
Jun 2018
#29
That will probably be dealt with either via state Democratic Parties or legislatures....
George II
Jun 2018
#31
Question is, will this stop repukes running as Democrats from running and switching parties?
meow2u3
Jun 2018
#36
Will Bernie join or run on the Ralph Nader "Give the Election to Trump 2020" Independent ticket?
TheBlackAdder
Jun 2018
#39
If Bernie wanted to run as an I for president he would have done so in '16 after the primary
LostOne4Ever
Jun 2018
#149
I'll withhold my more *$!&emphatic%#* comments, and leave it at, "This sounds like a fine idea."
NBachers
Jun 2018
#56
I am glad to see Democrats doing this but unfortunate there was the need to state an obvious.
ChrisTee
Jun 2018
#80
Didn't Sanders change his affiliation for the purpose of running in the primary?
Calista241
Jun 2018
#94
Amen to that! My only complaint is that it took too long to do it. NT
Bleacher Creature
Jun 2018
#118
A DNC committee has adopted a rule that presidential candidates must be party members.
Gothmog
Jun 2018
#129
This rule has been on the books since 2016 and was not aimed directly at Sanders
pecosbob
Jun 2018
#177
Or a rule that says they have to remain a Democrat even if they lose after using the party.
MrsCoffee
Jun 2018
#194
It Is About Time! Stop Ignoring Long Time Democrats in Favor of Social Media...
TomCADem
Jun 2018
#195
now they just need a rule that says Democrats actually have to support DEMOCRATIC policies not
yurbud
Jun 2018
#205
but you faint when someone who supports Democratic policies more faithfully than our "leaders" wants
yurbud
Jun 2018
#210
how do you define a "genuine" Democrat? What's the "litmus test" centrists that are ok?
yurbud
Jun 2018
#214