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34. This is why we need to fundamentally change things

Mon Dec 5, 2016, 09:20 PM

Dec 2016

Its been apparent for a while now that a lot of jobs done are simply not necessary, except to the income of those doing them.

We need reduce the work week accordingly. Full time should be dropped to 30 or even fewer hours a week, with wages rising commensurately, so that the jobs that are still necessary can be done by more people who have more free time and still make a living.

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Amazons new grocery store highlights a huge hole in Donald Trumps promise on jobs [View all] Blue Shoes Dec 2016 OP

How many Amazon shoppers are people who work in retail? titaniumsalute Dec 2016 #1

I'm not opposed to new technology. Blue Shoes Dec 2016 #2

Retrained for what, exactly? OnlinePoker Dec 2016 #10

McDonald's is just going automatic too they announced last week yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #17

We need to fundementally restructure the economy. Blue Shoes Dec 2016 #18

Factories need to be decentralized... Blanks Dec 2016 #54

Retrained to do what? Making college a necessity isn't working out. LisaM Dec 2016 #19

probably the same ones that buy cars made outside the 50 states msongs Dec 2016 #3

Ahem. You mean Honda and Toyota? They're made here. Hekate Dec 2016 #23

Around here in northeast oklahoma madokie Dec 2016 #27

and in California... Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #41

Yay d_r Dec 2016 #30

Or train operators who buy cars made within or without the US. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #52

People are concerned about price, quality, and convenience Renew Deal Dec 2016 #8

Until they lost their own jobs and then reality will upset their worldview. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #9

After the election of Trump... LisiFFXV Dec 2016 #43

Nice, I can't wait for it to get to my town... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #4

Maybe he can give Bezos a tax break and a Ford Maverick or something BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #5

As a consumer, I can't support this. LisaM Dec 2016 #6

My aversion to human interaction comes from knowing about half rzemanfl Dec 2016 #26

Well, that's not going to bridge any divides. LisaM Dec 2016 #28

I don't want to bridge any divides. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #29

Well, that's all well and good. But take a look at these two comments LisaM Dec 2016 #35

I lived "in the sticks" once. Could not stand it. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #36

Hence, your aversion to humanity is relatively brand new? LanternWaste Dec 2016 #53

Becoming too dependent on microchips leaves us vulnerable. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #7

I guess I'm screwed. OnlinePoker Dec 2016 #11

My eyesight isn't good enough to use them. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #14

Terrible Worried senior Dec 2016 #20

I suppose the elite will always love Whole Foods. I'm thinking drones. YOHABLO Dec 2016 #12

Trump doesn't care about American jobs. TeamPooka Dec 2016 #13

It was probably folly to think he ever did. mpcamb Dec 2016 #15

Cut corners, make a bundle, hit the door running mpcamb Dec 2016 #16

That sounds awful. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2016 #21

I look forward to the day robot workers walk in to these shops Xipe Totec Dec 2016 #22

Stores seem to be collapsing already. Now, I admit that I never was much of Nay Dec 2016 #55

I much prefer human interaction. Given the choice between self-checkout and having a cashier... Hekate Dec 2016 #24

Here's the thing DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #40

Myself, I use automated every chance I get. christx30 Dec 2016 #42

4.6% unemployment today & I don't think the 4.6% want to hand mine coal or be career cashiers. Sunlei Dec 2016 #25

We have that today Travis_0004 Dec 2016 #31

May as well rename Amazon to Stuffer Shack and get it over with. Shandris Dec 2016 #32

The Horn and Hardart Automat is back! DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #33

I remember the Automat katmondoo Dec 2016 #59

This is why we need to fundamentally change things quakerboy Dec 2016 #34

Fewer hours, at more money SubjectiveLife78 Dec 2016 #38

In what way? quakerboy Dec 2016 #44

If society needs fewer people for the job to get done SubjectiveLife78 Dec 2016 #58

Some work is needed. for now quakerboy Dec 2016 #60

Trump's outrageous promises about jobs? SubjectiveLife78 Dec 2016 #37

I doubt that it will work, since there is nothing to prevent a flash mob from raiding the store FarCenter Dec 2016 #39

+1. nt steve2470 Dec 2016 #47

This is amazing. We need a universal income now. Oneironaut Dec 2016 #45

Well, that and the US now having a nearly 100% teabagger government. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #51

Exactly. It's the teabagger/RW chance to get rid of all the "useless eaters." Wonder Nay Dec 2016 #56

It's like the Dead Kennedys once said: HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #57

Theft ? How do they prevent theft ? steve2470 Dec 2016 #46

Relevant article on the disappearance of jobs here Danascot Dec 2016 #48

This happened before, you know MosheFeingold Dec 2016 #49

There is a difference between that era and this one, though . . . HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #50