Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

branford

(4,462 posts)
43. That doesn't even remotely address my point.
Mon May 23, 2016, 03:25 PM
May 2016

You clearly implied the judge in the Nero case predetermined the verdict or was otherwise corrupt.

That's a serious allegation, and you provided no proof other than some righteous indignation.

In any event, not every police officer in Baltimore is bad or racist, not every officer who encountered Gray did something to warrant criminal liability, and those who may deserve criminal sanction are not all equally guilty or responsible.

Simply, as with all criminal cases, a defendant is presumed innocent, and the state bears the burden of proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. In virtually all of the Gray cases, the district attorney seriously overcharged everyone (including some who probably should not have been charged at all) and otherwise engaged in questionable legal strategies and practices, likely in response to political and social pressures rather than legal acumen and ethics. The hung jury and acquittal thus far are not surprising, but should only be blamed on the (African-American woman!) district attorney's political ambitions, not a systemic failure of the legal system.

The primary defendants have yet to be tried, and absent more gross incompetence from the prosecutors, there may be some convictions. Based on the actual evidence, however, it appears Nero did not deserve any criminal consequences for his actions. Lastly, note that Nero will still face internal review and potential discipline.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

I knew it... Archae May 2016 #1
Wasn't a jury philosslayer May 2016 #2
Trials shouldn't be allowed? former9thward May 2016 #8
Non-jury trials philosslayer May 2016 #9
So someone with a legal education should not be allowed to give a verdict? former9thward May 2016 #10
I'd trust 12 citizens philosslayer May 2016 #12
Many AA citizens in the 1930's died or sat in jails for crimes they didn't commit because they Akicita May 2016 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author philosslayer May 2016 #36
You most surely are not alone. n/t Judi Lynn May 2016 #51
There was a high-profile murder trial recently in my fair city. mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #14
Judges are human too Spacedog1973 May 2016 #25
Ann Coulter has a legal education. tabasco May 2016 #50
Is Ann Coulter a judge? former9thward May 2016 #55
Everybody is entitled to a bench trial leftynyc May 2016 #17
Not exactly accurate. The Constitution guarantees a jury trial in federal court where the amount 24601 May 2016 #66
I had heard that leftynyc May 2016 #67
It was a weak case yeoman6987 May 2016 #20
I agree, the focus should be on the driver. The case against the others is weak Amishman May 2016 #22
Why do you say this.... S_B_Jackson May 2016 #54
Then who will be charged with causing the obvious severe injury? raging moderate May 2016 #3
You can see it in that photograph, with them dragging the poor young man between them. raging moderate May 2016 #5
The autopsy said he was fine when he was loaded into the van XemaSab May 2016 #23
... Crepuscular May 2016 #4
Unfuckingbelievable onecaliberal May 2016 #6
It's a shame this is the first cop they get a verdict on in the Freddie Gray case. Calista241 May 2016 #7
You would think that they would have given him immunity from prosecution, Nye Bevan May 2016 #11
But then that thin blue line would have kicked in, christx30 May 2016 #32
Ironically Quackers May 2016 #49
disgusted, but not in the least surprised. niyad May 2016 #13
Obviously a RACIST Judge StarTrombone May 2016 #15
Judges protect cops Democat May 2016 #16
Oh B as in B, S as in S StarTrombone May 2016 #19
I knew it! If you look close, you can see he is wearing a white shirt under that black robe. Akicita May 2016 #35
I can see there will be no justice in this case. alarimer May 2016 #18
Oh my gosh. Really? yeoman6987 May 2016 #21
The prosecuter over charged moonbabygo May 2016 #52
Disgusting Bettie May 2016 #24
Would you care to actually comment on the particular charges branford May 2016 #28
Well put. What's scary about many of the outraged posters is that it is very reminiscent of our Akicita May 2016 #38
I do not believe any of those involved Bettie May 2016 #42
That doesn't even remotely address my point. branford May 2016 #43
Question for you Branford Calista241 May 2016 #56
It depends. branford May 2016 #57
Thanks for the insight. ;) Calista241 May 2016 #58
Judges find for cops Bettie May 2016 #59
Again, you can believe anything you want for any reason you like. branford May 2016 #60
He's a witch Yupster May 2016 #46
No, that's far to European. branford May 2016 #48
I minimize and trivialize the violence of police too. LanternWaste May 2016 #63
Huh? branford May 2016 #71
Your posts always remind me of a text version of a Jackson Pollock painting... TipTok May 2016 #73
Completely disgusting and predictable. Gray was murdered! floriduck May 2016 #26
He wasn't murdered by Nero. branford May 2016 #29
And the cop primarily responsible for his injuries, has he been tried yet? The driver? Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #31
The prosecution apparently was attempting to leverage the small players branford May 2016 #39
If you recall, people were screaming for heads on plates. Immediately. EL34x4 May 2016 #40
Fucking people, asking for justice, how annoying. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #44
What happens to white folks all the time? philosslayer May 2016 #53
How about just following the law? TipTok May 2016 #62
Like simply swimming in a neighborhood pool in McKinney TX? LanternWaste May 2016 #64
Better that than giving in to mob rule... TipTok May 2016 #65
You know, kind of like Tamir Rice and John Crawford did. HughBeaumont May 2016 #68
White folks dont see these issues the same way as anyone else, because their lives Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #69
All the more reason to make sure that LE receive due process... TipTok May 2016 #72
They aren't interested in facts or the law Lurks Often May 2016 #33
this is why when people say "all lives matter" DonCoquixote May 2016 #27
All Lives Matter NobodyHere May 2016 #37
It does matter how a case is prosecuted. psychmommy May 2016 #30
Are you suggesting that the very politically-minded district attorney branford May 2016 #41
Yes I would say that creative prosecution keeps some people out of jajl psychmommy May 2016 #45
You can, of course, have any opinion you wish. branford May 2016 #47
Weak and over charged cases don't usually end up with convictions... TipTok May 2016 #61
Why Officer Nero found not guilty askeptic May 2016 #70
Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Officer Acquitted in Fred...»Reply #43