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Kelvin Mace

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Mon Oct 26, 2015, 07:35 AM

Oct 2015

I was pointing out though that early hominids didn't smoke (since the OP mentioned smoking). And you are correct, our methods of curing meats is very different today than it was even 100 years ago. I think the addition of so many chemicals in the modern curing process is the problem.

Of course, the Bacon Industrial Complex will not take this fact quietly.

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Bacon, sausages and ham rank alongside smoking as cancer causes, says WHO [View all] brooklynite Oct 2015 OP

Hominids have been eating red meat for how many years now? hobbit709 Oct 2015 #1

True, Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #3

Wasn't talking about tobacco hobbit709 Oct 2015 #6

I know Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #11

Yeah, today's methods use lots of chemicals Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #110

but not "smoked" meats AlbertCat Oct 2015 #21

I should be more clear, sorry Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #28

Actually humans have been eating smoked meat for thousands of years. cstanleytech Oct 2015 #84

agribiz-kept animals with chemicals in their diet = cancer wordpix Oct 2015 #92

No, salting and smoking are ancient processes Warpy Oct 2015 #103

It's the chemicals used in processing meats, in my opinion. closeupready Oct 2015 #4

There's a funny thing about nitrites and nitrates... GliderGuider Oct 2015 #24

Affiliate Disclosure Sunlei Oct 2015 #61

In this life we all get to choose whose lies we will believe... GliderGuider Oct 2015 #65

thanks, Sunlei, I thought it would be some kind of scam wordpix Oct 2015 #95

hey but Chemical-Bacon Corps pay good for those kind words :) Sunlei Oct 2015 #96

yes, but is it the same identical chemical? demigoddess Oct 2015 #97

It's your body, so you get to decide whose agenda you believe GliderGuider Oct 2015 #98

the animals are given heavy doses of chemicals throughout their lives wordpix Oct 2015 #94

+2 appalachiablue Oct 2015 #116

Your grandparents didn't eat pink slime formed together and called red meat. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #15

I don't call that meat either. hobbit709 Oct 2015 #16

I wish you and the grocers agreed. <G> n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #17

I love the grin symbol! <g> Reter Oct 2015 #22

What does the ignore button scream? n/t jtuck004 Oct 2015 #25

Are you seriously putting someone on ignore for complimenting you? Reter Oct 2015 #106

You should go really old-school dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #112

I would if they had it available to use as an avatar Reter Oct 2015 #117

Cool, I started on mainframes dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #119

It's because you can't use emoticons Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #36

I see how the internet sucks for reading between the lines, and you can put a :) in the title Reter Oct 2015 #107

And they have had a rather short life expectancy over most of that time. whopis01 Oct 2015 #29

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And what about heteronids? nt valerief Oct 2015 #53

I doubt that even 100 years ago that people ate red meat at about every meal. LiberalArkie Oct 2015 #42

Ever watch the series The Supersizers? dixiegrrrrl Oct 2015 #64

Exactly. There are a lot of myths used to rationalize gorging on industrially-produced meat now villager Oct 2015 #76

And curing meat and fish as soon as they discovered how to make fire Warpy Oct 2015 #101

This has been know for some time. Still it is good that it calling attention to it still_one Oct 2015 #2

Processed meats The Wizard Oct 2015 #5

I still buy meat but I don't buy meat with hormones and antibiotics in it. hobbit709 Oct 2015 #7

I only eat range fed beef and nitrate free bacon and hot dogs womanofthehills Oct 2015 #47

I should be dead from cancer then. Archae Oct 2015 #8

Right, because they should base all studies on you personally. randome Oct 2015 #13

Are you serious? padfun Oct 2015 #14

The poster tends to cherry pick PatSeg Oct 2015 #40

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I agree with you Plucketeer Oct 2015 #44

What a odd thing to say about the World Health Organization. ronnie624 Oct 2015 #52

Right, and some guy who smokes lived into his 90s, Nye Bevan Oct 2015 #63

The WHO is going downhill fast, indeed. HuckleB Oct 2015 #70

yes, phd's and medical doctors restorefreedom Oct 2015 #85

Switching to e-Bacon MowCowWhoHow III Oct 2015 #9

It's like everything the Vikings did was wrong. sofa king Oct 2015 #10

I've cut back to just two packs of bacon per day Orrex Oct 2015 #12

where does stress and worrying rank? olddad56 Oct 2015 #18

Does that include bacon flavored Scope? Human101948 Oct 2015 #19

It's not real and boy did that give some people a sad... Kalidurga Oct 2015 #49

I chose to die from bacon. Evergreen Emerald Oct 2015 #20

Bacon cheezburgers, nom nom nom shenmue Oct 2015 #54

They can have my red meat When they pry it from my cold dead fingers hueymahl Oct 2015 #23

Cold dead tumors Geronimoe Oct 2015 #62

Either way, MMM meat. hueymahl Oct 2015 #120

An oncologist somethingshiny Oct 2015 #26

In honor of this study I had........ Kilgore Oct 2015 #27

"another study will tell you NOT eating ... shortens life" - yes, like eggs. closeupready Oct 2015 #30

Good for you! somethingshiny Oct 2015 #37

Already had the coffee, two cups, full caffeine but I...... Kilgore Oct 2015 #46

Precisely. I decided the same many years ago too. sybylla Oct 2015 #67

Very good post! Kilgore Oct 2015 #91

Ha! Exactly! sybylla Oct 2015 #118

Probably needlessly alarmist. alarimer Oct 2015 #32

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No, because the media reports on stuff like this are almost always wrong. alarimer Oct 2015 #35

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Try eating more fiber! Geronimoe Oct 2015 #59

In the article PatSeg Oct 2015 #45

What? rockfordfile Oct 2015 #69

Remember the Atkins diet? kimbutgar Oct 2015 #38

I have been on that Atkins diet, sometimes off, mostly on, since the '70s. djean111 Oct 2015 #55

I'm a low carber as well. Feron Oct 2015 #89

Eh...fuck it. Still eating ham, bacon, red meat, etc. It's not like I have it every day. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #39

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Time to bring BaconVapin to the market n/t IDemo Oct 2015 #41

People get more emotional PatSeg Oct 2015 #43

Oh, No - packman Oct 2015 #48

Oh god, the assault kit! smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #105

No it doesn't. It's what's in the meat that does. Gregorian Oct 2015 #56

Uhm, just a quibble, but in the case of salt, there is no chemical difference between "sea salt".. Humanist_Activist Oct 2015 #72

I'm waiting to hear about how some of us need more salt in our diets hedgehog Oct 2015 #74

I would say follow the directions from your doctor, removing salt entirely from you diet is harmful. Humanist_Activist Oct 2015 #79

Be careful with the pink salt Kilgore Oct 2015 #104

More than one highly respected person I've listened to has mentioned the differences between the two Gregorian Oct 2015 #121

Up until a couple of months ago, I thought there might be chemical differences between sea salt... Humanist_Activist Oct 2015 #122

All I got to say is this lancer78 Oct 2015 #57

gotten worse when they took the dog food scrap and started feeding it to humans. Worse Sunlei Oct 2015 #58

good grief! chillfactor Oct 2015 #60

Well, 5 years of vegetarianism damaged my health severely. GliderGuider Oct 2015 #66

Sorry to hear that. sybylla Oct 2015 #68

And just to rub some salt in the wound GliderGuider Oct 2015 #71

Hopefully lab grown, cloned meat becomes economical, that's my hope... Humanist_Activist Oct 2015 #73

isn't there something between vegetarianism and 90% meat? Skittles Oct 2015 #99

Sure there is for most people, just not for me. GliderGuider Oct 2015 #100

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2015 #75

I doubt Runningdawg Oct 2015 #77

Well, at least it's official now... Blue_Tires Oct 2015 #78

Alcohol too? FLPanhandle Oct 2015 #80

I may die a little earlier because of bacon, but you have to be a little skeptical. Vinca Oct 2015 #81

On a normal day I am exposed to a few carcinogens like everyone elmac Oct 2015 #82

Screw Roger Daltrey. I'm never giving up sausage. Throd Oct 2015 #83

Don't smoke bacon! GeorgeGist Oct 2015 #86

we know that meat production is bad for human health, deadly for the animals it kills, restorefreedom Oct 2015 #87

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Well, there goes my idea for a bacon, sausages and ham hookah. frylock Oct 2015 #90

Game over. Nice knowing you all. I'm fooked. aikoaiko Oct 2015 #93

Dumb study, alarmist rating MannyGoldstein Oct 2015 #102

Mmmm....bacon...... Rond Vidar Oct 2015 #108

The departure of butter seems to have left a vaccum. beevul Oct 2015 #109

The risk: a 0.8% higher chance of coloreectal cancer from 2oz processed meat per day muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #111

I didn't eat my usual Bacon this morning. leftyladyfrommo Oct 2015 #113

K to keep eye on :-) N/T w0nderer Oct 2015 #114

Not giving up bacon...ever. GOLGO 13 Oct 2015 #115

Well there's mass produced chemically smoked bacon and then there's the other kinc Monk06 Oct 2015 #123

I'm convinced the WHO has an ideological agenda meow2u3 Oct 2015 #124