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emulatorloo

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41. Yes! to GROVELBOT, no to advertising

Fri Sep 11, 2015, 11:31 AM

Sep 2015

Excellent suggestions.

Ad rates are dependent on site traffic. The more traffic you have, the more $$$ you can charge for ad space.

Under the ad system, DU financially benefits from high-profile divisive flame-baiters. Because flame-bait posts generate tons of traffic.

I think ad-based DU was set up with the best of intentions, to help members who couldn't donate and to strengthen the site and make sure Democratic Underground.

However I think it had the unintended consequence of creating Too Big To Fail Trolls because they benefit the bottom line.

I really feel for the owners/admins. IMHO what started out as a good-faith effort to make DU stronger has inadvertently turned DU into a hell-hole.

Implementing your suggestions would genuinely strengthen the site.

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Tips for Surviving Primary Season on Democratic Underground [View all] EarlG Sep 2015 OP

These are great tools and great advice...Thank you! CaliforniaPeggy Sep 2015 #1

Step 1: Vodka - Step 2: No pants shenmue Sep 2015 #2

Step 3: Pictures Lochloosa Sep 2015 #3

I suggest heavy experimentation...... daleanime Sep 2015 #10

LOL. I suggest trashing the word "trash." Maybe..."refine." I had a different reason for "refining" Hortensis Sep 2015 #26

These steps address major problems in the DU primary discussion process. philly_bob Sep 2015 #4

So ignore the problem? onehandle Sep 2015 #5

My ignore list has grown considerably recently, comparative to where I was before June liberal N proud Sep 2015 #6

I think it is a good idea. I started doing it recently and it does make life better here. CTyankee Sep 2015 #22

As a veteran, I took this advice long before you offered it up. DU sucks much less. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2015 #7

Trashing GD:P or a candidate group is good advice, as is hiding threads. "Ignore" OTOH Gormy Cuss Sep 2015 #8

Thank you. I have been avoiding DU alot because it seems to have been taken over by sometimes Fla Dem Sep 2015 #9

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #11

I've been on DU for almost 15 years and I've posted less than 500 times! Stainless Sep 2015 #12

juries are a crapshoot, Stainless Skittles Sep 2015 #17

I only lurked during the runup to Obama's nomination - raven mad Sep 2015 #13

Excellent PSA. herding cats Sep 2015 #14

In other words ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #15

+ 1000 awoke_in_2003 Sep 2015 #16

Not sure how you get rid of the elephant in the room, and until it's gone the manure is pretty deep Fla Dem Sep 2015 #19

Thank you. Bobbie Jo Sep 2015 #23

Have I told you lately that I love you? Nance Fricken RANTS! Righteously, too!!!!!! +1,000,000! MADem Sep 2015 #27

"This one used to be like that ..." NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #31

I don't think the changes were done to screw the place over--it was an experiment to give "us" MADem Sep 2015 #35

I don't think for a minute ... NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #42

I can't argue with you because your points are entirely valid. This is no longer a site for MADem Sep 2015 #43

"The culture of this place has been altered." NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #45

Maybe it provides an income stream that is pretty much the same regardless MADem Sep 2015 #46

Ahhhh, Schrafft's!!! NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #47

Again, I can't argue with the points you're making--you are right. MADem Sep 2015 #48

I don't think the changes were done to screw the place over--it was an experiment to give "us" MADem Sep 2015 #35

Remember when criticism of Democrats needed to be "constructive"?... SidDithers Sep 2015 #49

I remember when personal insults were forbidden! Those were the days! nt MADem Sep 2015 #58

"where bashing, trashing and otherwise insulting Democrats is not permitted" JTFrog Sep 2015 #40

Great post Nance Gothmog Sep 2015 #28

Kick and rec this post. zappaman Sep 2015 #29

It's simple, zappaman. NanceGreggs Sep 2015 #32

Thanks Nance. sheshe2 Sep 2015 #34

Excellent rant. n/t JTFrog Sep 2015 #39

+1000000 nt steve2470 Sep 2015 #50

So, you've given up entirely. Good to know. boston bean Sep 2015 #18

I make full use of Ignore and Jury Blacklist... CTyankee Sep 2015 #21

right, butI find it strange that the solution is for members to stay out of open forums by trashing boston bean Sep 2015 #24

those are good suggestions, IMO. Hope you made them in ATA. CTyankee Sep 2015 #25

So essentially create an echo chamber? rainbow fish Sep 2015 #20

as a member of almost 11 years duration, here's my comments steve2470 Sep 2015 #30

Yes! to GROVELBOT, no to advertising emulatorloo Sep 2015 #41

thanks :) nt steve2470 Sep 2015 #44

They were willing to create "Discussionist" to appeal to people on the right. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #53

eh not worth the energy to argue with you, good day nt steve2470 Sep 2015 #54

We have the power to shape our own DU experience? murielm99 Sep 2015 #33

Well said. n/t JTFrog Sep 2015 #38

Everyone has the same tools available to control their own experience her at the DU Capt. Obvious Sep 2015 #37

Thank you! chillfactor Sep 2015 #51

My suggestion or a change to 'ignore' functionality. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Sep 2015 #52

EarlG, I have a better idea. Bring back the Mods, and the rule that only constructive criticism of stevenleser Sep 2015 #55

+1 nt steve2470 Sep 2015 #56

So here are a few suggestions for anyone who is feeling burned out... Ptah Sep 2015 #57

Or just be an adult and choose which forums you want to visit and when question everything Oct 2015 #59