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EarlG

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Mon Aug 21, 2023, 12:59 PM Aug 2023

The latest version of Democratic Underground, aka DU4, is now open for early access beta testing! [View all]

This discussion thread was locked by EarlG (a host of the Announcements group).

Many of you know that Elad and I have been working on a new update to our software, known as DU4, for quite some time. Over the past three years I've talked about it and shown off screenshots, and some of you have even tried it out for short periods of time, helping us test early versions.

As promised last week, anyone who purchased or renewed their Star Membership during the Summer Fund Drive can access the beta right now. Access to all site visitors will be opened up two weeks from tomorrow, on September 5 (the day after Labor Day).

For those of you who want to try it out, simply go to your browser's address bar, and replace "www" with "du4" -- or just visit this link:

https://du4.democraticunderground.com

You may want to set a DU4 bookmark in your browser so you can reach the test site easily.

Special forums for DU4 beta users

BUG REPORTS

If you are using the DU4 beta and you want to report a bug, please use the DU4 Bug Reports forum (you can find this via Navigate > Help & Search).

GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT DU4

Meanwhile, if you have other questions about DU4, we have set up a DU4 Q&A forum (again, you can find this via Navigate > Help & Search)


What you should know

First, and most importantly, there are no new rule changes, and the vast majority of the features and functions of DU3 -- such as posting, reccing, the Jury System, etc. -- have not changed at all on DU4. Everything you have on DU3 -- such as your Journal, your Bookmarks, etc. -- you will still have, and while things are going to look a little different, everything should work as you expect it to.

DU4 was primarily intended as a cosmetic refresh, to bring the look of the site up to date. Wherever possible, I've tried to keep things where you're used to finding them on DU. However, some things have moved around, with the most noticeable likely being the navigation system.

From the "NAVIGATE" button at the top left, you will find links to the Latest page, the Greatest page, and the new Latest Videos page. There are also links to the "big three" forums -- Latest Breaking News, General Discussion, and the Lounge. Finally, there are six new forum categories which contain all the Topic Forums ("Topic Forums" also includes DU3 Groups). Feel free to explore.

Meanwhile, from the "MY STUFF" button at the top right, you will find... your stuff. Again, feel free to explore.


New features

While DU4 was primarily intended as a cosmetic update, of course we couldn't resist sneaking in some new features. So in your My Stuff menu you'll also find a new page called "Feed" (this is for Star Members only), and we now have a standalone "Member Lookup" page (for all registered members).

You'll also find new options in Account Settings (some for Star Members only) -- including an easier way to update your email address and password, and options to change the visual appearance of the site. If you decide you prefer DU the way it was before, you can select "Skinner Mode" for a retro DU3 look.

You can find a comprehensive list of DU4 features here.


Bugs and other issues

There will be quirks! This is an ongoing beta test which will be running in front of its widest audience yet, so we expect bugs and issues to crop up. The purpose of this test is for us to find and squash as many bugs as possible so that we can eventually switch the entire site over to DU4.

From time to time, depending on what you're doing on DU4, you may find yourself sent back to a DU3 page. This is to be expected for now -- if it happens to you, simply replace "www" with "du4" in your address bar and you'll be back on track.

As mentioned above, we have a dedicated forum on DU4 for reporting bugs and issues, which we encourage you to use should you find any problems. We also have a dedicated forum for questions and answers.


The test will be interrupted periodically

We expect the beta test to run semi-permanently in parallel with DU3 until we're ready to switch the entire site over to DU4. There will be brief shutdowns from time to time to implement bug fixes, and we'll notify you of these before they happen.

Both versions of the site are running off the same database, so anything you do on DU4 will be reflected on DU3, and vice versa. For example, if you start a new discussion in the Lounge on DU3, that discussion will appear in the Lounge on DU4. Or if you self-delete a post on DU4, it will disappear on DU3. No matter which version of the site you use, you will not lose any posts, bookmarks, etc. when we make the final switchover.


Final thoughts

It's been a very long road to DU4. The project began more than three years ago with a blank text document, and tens of thousands of hand-written lines of code later, we're almost at the finish line. We do not yet have a date set for the full release of DU4 -- that will depend on how the beta test goes -- but we will of course let you know well in advance before it happens.

We hope you enjoy it!

EarlG and Elad -- the Administrators
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Wow - on 1st look cilla4progress Aug 2023 #1
I'm in! William769 Aug 2023 #2
WoW! DU4 is awesome-looking at first glance. CousinIT Aug 2023 #3
Thanks, EarlG! highplainsdem Aug 2023 #4
My Stuff will blink for three reasons EarlG Aug 2023 #11
Thanks! I did see the Posts button lit up when I checked My Stuff just highplainsdem Aug 2023 #19
Well, that'll incentivize me to cancel all my subscriptions. intheflow Aug 2023 #35
They mention... Pluvious Aug 2023 #45
looks like you can customize consider_this Aug 2023 #57
That sounds so much better! intheflow Aug 2023 #69
consider_this is correct EarlG Aug 2023 #84
Thanks! Hadn't noticed that earlier. I switched the notification to a solid color. highplainsdem Aug 2023 #92
You can go to Account Settings and shut off notifications for Subscriptions. But highplainsdem Aug 2023 #79
Changing *new* settings in DU4 Account Settings won't affect DU3 EarlG Aug 2023 #85
Wow! MontanaMama Aug 2023 #71
Wouldnt load at all on a mac os 10.6.8 Blues Heron Aug 2023 #5
It's explained in the second paragraph of the announcement EarlG Aug 2023 #7
Thanks Blues Heron Aug 2023 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author underpants Aug 2023 #6
Great look and feel! Chainfire Aug 2023 #8
Blank screen on iPhone iOS 16.6 Safari browser unc70 Aug 2023 #10
Please see the second paragraph of the announcement EarlG Aug 2023 #12
It looks great wendyb-NC Aug 2023 #13
It is not for me to stand in the way of progress sanatanadharma Aug 2023 #14
Love the fresh clean look! CrispyQ Aug 2023 #15
sorry ... i just don't like change. i have a problem with it & always have Trueblue1968 Aug 2023 #16
I feel the same Marthe48 Aug 2023 #25
I appreciate how you feel. On the upside, our brains get something new to puzzle, and get used to. c-rational Aug 2023 #66
I don't know what your vision disability is... sheshe2 Aug 2023 #102
I've got the brightness turned way down Marthe48 Aug 2023 #103
I used to turn the brightness down, it just made the words dim and fuzzy. sheshe2 Aug 2023 #105
I will bookmark this thread to refer to Marthe48 Aug 2023 #106
It's not easy to change something you're used to EarlG Aug 2023 #86
I never like change. But that is just me as an old person...sigh... Scottie Mom Aug 2023 #17
i don't like change either. i don't want DU to look different. TOO MUCH WHITE. Trueblue1968 Aug 2023 #18
Agree. Scottie Mom Aug 2023 #20
This is the first day of the early access beta test so there are going to be issues EarlG Aug 2023 #22
It'll be interesting to see how many stick with the Skinner Mode Marthe48 Aug 2023 #26
Yes, they are compatible EarlG Aug 2023 #36
canwe stick with the original one... the one we use now ??? Trueblue1968 Aug 2023 #59
If you prefer the old look EarlG Aug 2023 #23
Thanks for the info. Scottie Mom Aug 2023 #48
thank you. i just did that. Trueblue1968 Aug 2023 #60
DU4 has what is called Skinner Mode, which will give you something closer to the format you're used to. Go highplainsdem Aug 2023 #24
Thank you, EarlG and Elad! gademocrat7 Aug 2023 #21
Avatars show up with Default and Night Mode, but not Skinner Mode. highplainsdem Aug 2023 #27
Are you on a phone? EarlG Aug 2023 #37
Tablet. And as I mentioned in reply 19, DU4 has fixed the highplainsdem Aug 2023 #39
Okay I'll take another look at this EarlG Aug 2023 #44
All, judging by this thread. highplainsdem Aug 2023 #47
Ah, do you normally hold the tablet vertically? EarlG Aug 2023 #88
Holding it horizontally doesn't make them appear. I even changed the highplainsdem Aug 2023 #90
Unfortunately I couldn't reproduce the issue EarlG Aug 2023 #94
A Fire tablet. I tried clearing the cache, too, and that didn't make any difference. No problem with sig lines. Just highplainsdem Aug 2023 #95
I've done some digging into this and unfortunately EarlG Aug 2023 #101
It's okay - I don't need to see the avatars, and they show up anyway in highplainsdem Aug 2023 #104
And by "No problem with sig lines" I mean those are visible when I hold the tablet horizontally, then highplainsdem Aug 2023 #96
This is exciting!... Think. Again. Aug 2023 #28
I LOVE the "Friendly forums for passionate Dems" subtitle under Democratic Underground. highplainsdem Aug 2023 #29
If the new AI coding capabilities existed three years ago would it have made creating the new DU Pepsidog Aug 2023 #30
Generative AI, the type that writes code, makes lots of mistakes that have to be highplainsdem Aug 2023 #34
I've never used AI coding assistance... EarlG Aug 2023 #38
Thanks for the response and all you guys do to keep this site running. Hard to imagine the work and Pepsidog Aug 2023 #46
Just opened, love the new look. Prairie_Seagull Aug 2023 #31
I'm old and not very computer savvy..... democrank Aug 2023 #32
Did you contribute by mail? EarlG Aug 2023 #41
The most cursory of results on my iPhone are mostly positive. intheflow Aug 2023 #33
If you're getting the resubmit notice when you hit back EarlG Aug 2023 #42
Hmm. I'm just getting a blank page. Kablooie Aug 2023 #40
Please see the second paragraph of the OP EarlG Aug 2023 #43
thanks! I look forward to playing around with this. First thoughts - looks great! NewHendoLib Aug 2023 #49
So awesome - DU4 is really happening! FakeNoose Aug 2023 #50
Looks OK, but ... (pretty long review) relayerbob Aug 2023 #51
THREE clicks instead of just one to get to the Announcements forum from highplainsdem Aug 2023 #52
Any forum you subscribe to will show up in the left column EarlG Aug 2023 #73
I understand. But I don't want notifications of new threads for every forum I would highplainsdem Aug 2023 #74
Just switched from DU3 to DU4, saw the My Stuff button blinking, and again there highplainsdem Aug 2023 #75
Just discovered I can shut off subscription notifications, and did highplainsdem Aug 2023 #76
im glad the developers kept the legacy nav system and i also like the new nav system AllaN01Bear Aug 2023 #53
Loving it!... Think. Again. Aug 2023 #54
The font is too small for me to easily moonscape Aug 2023 #55
I agree that the font size is much smaller now, and I prefer the original. nt pnwmom Aug 2023 #116
Yes! sagetea Aug 2023 #56
Thank you SO MUCH for the Dark Mode Option !! Pluvious Aug 2023 #58
. Dave in VA Aug 2023 #61
Looks great! Phentex Aug 2023 #62
This is great! AwakeAtLast Aug 2023 #63
It is an amazingly clean look.... sdfernando Aug 2023 #64
I was here for the test site. sheshe2 Aug 2023 #65
I love it too! Phentex Aug 2023 #67
Great on iPad! N/t CousinIT Aug 2023 #68
Looks great canetoad Aug 2023 #70
WOW! Layzeebeaver Aug 2023 #72
Looks good guys ornotna Aug 2023 #77
Thank all of you you for all the hard work LostOne4Ever Aug 2023 #78
Had to switch from Default to Dark Mode. Default is so bright, so much highplainsdem Aug 2023 #80
Are Signatures going away? LostOne4Ever Aug 2023 #81
Signatures aren't going away EarlG Aug 2023 #89
You know what I like, right off the bat? I can recommend someone's post on a thread! That PatrickforB Aug 2023 #82
Is there something comparable to the DU 3 Homepage... 3catwoman3 Aug 2023 #83
The DU home page can be found by EarlG Aug 2023 #87
Thnx. 3catwoman3 Aug 2023 #93
pros and cons consider_this Aug 2023 #91
Skinner Skin... consider_this Aug 2023 #98
Good points. I had a similar reaction. nt pnwmom Aug 2023 #117
NIGHT MODE! Habitation Aug 2023 #97
Font too small for boomer eyes? philly_bob Aug 2023 #99
This issue is a bit curious EarlG Aug 2023 #100
Curious indeed. philly_bob Aug 2023 #128
Curious indeed. philly_bob Aug 2023 #129
For anyone over 40. nt pnwmom Aug 2023 #118
Looks really good. A question. GP6971 Aug 2023 #107
The home page can be reached simply by clicking the site logo at the top of the page EarlG Aug 2023 #108
Thanks!! GP6971 Aug 2023 #109
I'm standing pat with the Skinner-style layout Rocknation Aug 2023 #110
deleting multiple emails! Kali Aug 2023 #111
Yes, that is a plus! highplainsdem Aug 2023 #113
EarlG ............ Upthevibe Aug 2023 #112
Thanks EarlG and Elad AKwannabe Aug 2023 #114
Additionally just found this AKwannabe Aug 2023 #115
Hey, to respond to both posts EarlG Aug 2023 #120
Just discovered Email has a Preview button in DU4! Thank you!!! highplainsdem Aug 2023 #119
The new format seems very workable. I have two requests/suggestions... keithbvadu2 Aug 2023 #121
Excess space between paragraphs and posts flamingdem Aug 2023 #122
I have a suggestion Warpy Aug 2023 #123
There is a filter at the top of the list of videos Yonnie3 Aug 2023 #124
Aces Firestorm49 Aug 2023 #125
Rather nice! Only a few minor issues... RainCaster Aug 2023 #126
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2023 #127
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