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85. THere was a great OP in Huff Post today

Mon Apr 11, 2016, 01:03 AM

Apr 2016

about that exact thing.

It's rather disturbing to think that. Oh, there's Elizabeth Warren, but she doesn't have the consistent history that Bernie has. I guess we can always hope.

I am personally very discouraged by what I see going on in the DNC and this primary. It's as if the values and principles are irrelevant -- only Party longevity and loyalty count. Bernie didn't play their game and they seem to be doing everything they can to make him (and his followers) pay for that -- regardless of values/principles. Even more incomprehensible is how so many Democrats who really have not been any more actively involved in the Party than the average person share that attitude. I have never once seen any meaningful defense of favoring Hillary over Bernie in light of core democratic principles.

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Bernie Is Not The Answer - Sorry [View all] scottie55 Apr 2016 OP

We have one chance to get this done... there shall not be another yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #1

Bernie may not be able to get it done kacekwl Apr 2016 #23

To begin we must... begin :) yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #35

Your absolutely right.....let's look to win and only look back when this is done.... Pauldg47 Apr 2016 #36

Please. If Bernie doesn't win this time, which it looks like he won't, you'll be excited about StevieM Apr 2016 #47

What's wrong with Bernie NOW? KPN Apr 2016 #54

I didn't say there was anything inherently wrong with Bernie now. It all depends on who the voters StevieM Apr 2016 #59

Why can't you support Bernie if you support Elizabeth? KPN Apr 2016 #64

I guess it is not so much that I can't support Bernie in a primary. I just don't want to. StevieM Apr 2016 #68

Well said. I supported Bernie in the primary but I have now moved on. AgadorSparticus Apr 2016 #87

Hats off for your civil tone and the measured explanation Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #91

Hillary does not support abortion rights... Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #105

Everything you support Hillary for KPN Apr 2016 #111

Speaking only for myself here. Amimnoch Apr 2016 #103

I understand your view but think you underestimate Bernie. KPN Apr 2016 #126

Yes, Warren will be elected at that time if she's the best person for the job. seekthetruth Apr 2016 #77

Warren would be 70 and 74 then.. Not everyone has lostnfound Apr 2016 #96

And how much kacekwl Apr 2016 #129

Obviously, as a Hillary supporter I don't agree that damage will be done. StevieM Apr 2016 #130

You are assuming Hillary kacekwl Apr 2016 #131

We HAD a chance in 2008... basselope Apr 2016 #51

I look at it differently. StevieM Apr 2016 #61

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2016 #72

I think I said he was a very good president. But still...let's look at the record. StevieM Apr 2016 #76

Barack has earned the title Bill Clinton used to have... basselope Apr 2016 #81

President Obama did not make all the Bush tax cuts permanent. StevieM Apr 2016 #83

Just not true basselope Apr 2016 #90

Yes. He raised taxes on the very RICH a whopping 4 % from 35.5 to 39.6%!!!! bvar22 Apr 2016 #114

Excellent synopsis basselope. Obama's poor governance virgista Apr 2016 #121

TPP and the other "trade" agreements are enough to relegate Obama to the dustbin of history emsimon33 Apr 2016 #89

I think Obama has been an awesome president. What we needed then lostnfound Apr 2016 #98

We have many more chances. lovemydog Apr 2016 #56

Wrong. You youngins think we live in an elected dictatorship. darkwing Apr 2016 #70

I agree Bernie is a great opportunity BUT Stevepol Apr 2016 #93

Bernie has always said that RoccoR5955 Apr 2016 #2

A good first start is ensuring that Republicans do not get to... Purrfessor Apr 2016 #15

If Democrat nominate Hillary, Republicans will probably win. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #21

And older Bernie supporters. daleanime Apr 2016 #28

I agree with your outlook. I have three kids in late 20s to early 30s. KPN Apr 2016 #50

If Hillary becomes the nominee, then young folks will have to weigh... Purrfessor Apr 2016 #69

Yeah. They will have to weigh that. KPN Apr 2016 #82

Hillary will not nominate "solidly liberal" justices Doctor_J Apr 2016 #112

And you know this how? Purrfessor Apr 2016 #118

Because she's a conservative Doctor_J Apr 2016 #119

And there won't be another Bernie for a long, long time. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #78

THere was a great OP in Huff Post today KPN Apr 2016 #85

I have not seen any defense for Hillary's candidacy at all other than that she is a woman. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #86

Yup. Can't agree with you more. KPN Apr 2016 #107

In Elizabeth Warren's defense, she still has another 4-8 years to build that history. strategery blunder Apr 2016 #95

Not sure that the Rs would actually be all that worse than Hillary were it not for Ruth Ginsberg. KPN Apr 2016 #108

The difference lies in what Republicans want to CUT strategery blunder Apr 2016 #116

Oh, so now it's not the SCOTUS KPN Apr 2016 #127

One of the reasons EW won't run is libdem4life Apr 2016 #115

the dnc and billary's disdain for our youth hopemountain Apr 2016 #52

You remind us that 8 more years of Hillary will mean 8 more years of Bill. Yech! virgista Apr 2016 #122

I don't doubt what you are saying... Purrfessor Apr 2016 #75

It isn't about not liking Hillary. It is about not liking the corruption and lying that she JDPriestly Apr 2016 #79

it is about principles and judgement hopemountain Apr 2016 #132

Listen, I'm a Bernie supporter Madam Mossfern Apr 2016 #100

Hillary's nominees.... daleanime Apr 2016 #27

This is my biggest worry. House of Roberts Apr 2016 #37

It is silly to think that Hillary's Supreme Court nominees will be any different than StevieM Apr 2016 #48

I doubt that Clinton's nominations would be any better than Obama's current PoS. nm rhett o rick Apr 2016 #53

How is Merick Garland any different than Ginsberg, Breyer, Sotomayer or Kagan? StevieM Apr 2016 #74

I'm not thrilled ablamj Apr 2016 #80

To each their own. I consider Sonia Sotomayer the best appointment to the Supreme Court StevieM Apr 2016 #84

Garland said he supports the Citizens United decision. He is conservative. We rhett o rick Apr 2016 #117

Take back your government. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #3

Revolution is necessary Thespian2 Apr 2016 #4

The whole corrupt system only works for those who run it. leveymg Apr 2016 #5

Democracy Spring 2016/ Democracy Awakening Equinox Moon Apr 2016 #20

Just wait until the conventions. Both of them. leveymg Apr 2016 #22

Corporate media will never show it ... aggiesal Apr 2016 #41

this is only the second time i have hopemountain Apr 2016 #57

Don't fool yourself Plucketeer Apr 2016 #6

Obama's third term.....probably worse. Well it is her turn AND SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #10

Here's hoping she gets what she deserves. dchill Apr 2016 #29

That's the point Equinox Moon Apr 2016 #17

Occupy Wall St. Plucketeer Apr 2016 #19

Wrong, Occupy accomplished what it did..... daleanime Apr 2016 #31

Well... ReRe Apr 2016 #43

I wasn't trying to paint Occupy as a failure Plucketeer Apr 2016 #106

this is where our part steps in hopemountain Apr 2016 #62

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You Were About to Piss Me Off mckara Apr 2016 #7

KnR SammyWinstonJack Apr 2016 #8

We are the man on the white hourse for whom we've waited Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #9

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Well, of course I do Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #46

Remind me again of what COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #101

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Dude , you need way better metaphor....because pkdu Apr 2016 #123

"He . . . awakes from a dream, having fully recovered his sanity." Jack Rabbit Apr 2016 #125

Forever vigilant! Phlem Apr 2016 #11

A new revolution is the "only" answer. No matter the question. Lint Head Apr 2016 #12

^^^this^^^ hopemountain Apr 2016 #65

Which must improve over the last quarter every quarter or you are fired. Lint Head Apr 2016 #71

I consider a big part of this is the end of the Cold War.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2016 #13

It takes each of us knowing our own part in it Equinox Moon Apr 2016 #14

exactly, equinox moon... hopemountain Apr 2016 #63

Indeed, someone could tip the election with an analysis Snarkoleptic Apr 2016 #16

Oh, just found this, which validates my hypothesis... Snarkoleptic Apr 2016 #25

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And that is exactly what Bernie is telling us. jwirr Apr 2016 #24

Bernie is our Gray Champion PADemD Apr 2016 #26

Love that, thanks for posting! nt 2cannan Apr 2016 #45

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Governments govern at the sufferance of the people. PatrickforO Apr 2016 #32

I agree with you except for one thing... bjo59 Apr 2016 #34

How much corruption felix_numinous Apr 2016 #39

otherwise we'd be just like mexico hopemountain Apr 2016 #66

I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!! Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #40

The Republicans Are Half Right - They Blame The Government And "Insiders" scottie55 Apr 2016 #42

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Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2016 #60

k&r, scottie55 - hopemountain Apr 2016 #67

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This is what the Party elites of both parties & their puppet masters don't get emsimon33 Apr 2016 #88

^^^this Locrian Apr 2016 #94

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Bernie is the first to say we are the answer. Helen Borg Apr 2016 #92

I agree but... DaphneV Apr 2016 #97

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I accept your apology. Iggo Apr 2016 #99

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Bernie IS the answer - He has given us roots! NAME IT pattyinez Apr 2016 #128