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In reply to the discussion: Democrats being just a big city party for some groups but not others has already failed. [View all]Docreed2003
(18,707 posts)Pretty sure my buddy John Daniels is helping out a bit in that...yeah, I know it's Jack, but "when you know him like I do"....oh wait, I guess that's too "Hollywood" east/west coast for your tastes...let's just agree to call him Jasper, his proper name...as any good Tennessean like myself knows and anyone who doesn't, well they're a Yankee carpetbagger that can't be trusted to take out the trash.
Holy Tappdancing Jesus on a Cracker, how do I begin to dismantle your outrageous post????
Let's start in the first paragraph...the "Dems" decided to be an urban party in '08?? Seriously W...T..F, bro?? Your very first sentence is so racially charged I'm ashamed to think you are a Democrat!! "Urban Party"??? WTF...that reeks of sensational racism and lack of understanding of the world. Add in the bit about "going corporate" and I seriously have to wonder if you were alive in 2008!! Who the hell to you think kept America from slipping into another "Great Depression"?? It sure as hell wasnt the GOP!! While I would suggest, many of those responsible for the financial crisis got off way too easily, that doesn't equate to your statement that Dems lined up with the corporatists.
You go on to list a litany of reasons why rural America voted for Trump...which makes me wonder...do you even have any connection whatsoever to REAL rural America?? Because I can assure you it wasn't the, lmao...*cough* pardon me, "strong, clear, jobs message" from Trump that won their support. As an aside, I'm actually begging you, please show any evidence for that outrageous statement and "We're gonna bring jobs back" from a speech doesn't count. Show me precisely where Trump laid out this glorious jobs plan and I'll provide you with a massive "mea culpa" for this post. I'm going to continue because I know you can't find it! Here's the real reason why rural folks, at least in the area I'm from and where I live, supported this shitbag: industry is gone..yes I'll give you that, family farms are crumbling from competition from major corporations, many farm jobs are relegated to seasonal migrant workers because that "working class" you speak of can't seem to accept a job in a fucking tobacco field in the dog days of August cutting tobbaco for slave wages...but it's so much easier to blame those brown skinned folk for "Taking my job", a bit of hatred for blacks..or as you said "urban" folks, mix in a healthy dose of religious indoctrination for the better part of thirty years where every Sunday you're told that the horrors of this country are due to "turning away from God" and the powers behind that are the Godless Democrats...well that's how you win the hearts and minds of rural America.
You scream "Good Jobs"...""Good Jobs for everyone" at the same time suggesting we should, at the least, minimize "civil rights" and "identity politics", and at worst suggesting we should throw them out all together in order to reach out to these mythical unicorn rural voters?? I'm sorry, but fuck that...and I can honestly say, as a child of rural upbringing fuck that shit all the way to hell with the rest of the GOP!!
Let me tell you about my background briefly. My granddaddy's granddad was a Methodist minister in TN who aided runaway slaves across the border to KY; my granddaddy was a sharecropper before he made his money...they were so poor that my aunts and uncles recall seeing chickens through the floorboards of the house and when it snowed they'd shove newspaper in the cracks of the walls to keep snow out, but guess who else were sharecroppers back then in the 20/30's...people of color who would become my grandparents closest friends... my granddad saved up and built a country store and it was vastly different for its time because it wasn't segregated...that got him a visit from the local klan who showed up with torches and granddaddy showed up with a double barreled shotgun, that I own to this day, and he called their sorry asses out by name and they scattered...I was raised by Roosevelt Dem grandparents and parents of the Kennedy era, but I'm lucky...I know many I grew up with weren't so lucky and they're suffering under their own racism and bigotry as a result.
All that to say, as a VERY PROUD Democrat, proud of my rural heritage and so proud of the stands my own family has taken for the better part of a 150 years...you can take your position on "civil rights" and "identity politics" and you can stick it where the sun don't shine. Because I will forever fight for jobs and resources and any benefits for my rural community but I will NEVER...NOT EVER...do so at the sacrifice of standing up for those in my community who are POC or LGBT or women or whatever else you think falls under the category of "identity politics"
Whew....shit that was longer than your post...pass the damn whiskey!!