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23. The Democratic party didn't decide to "be mainly an urban party," to "go corporate" (whatever

Sat Jul 22, 2017, 10:05 PM

Jul 2017

that means) or to only compete in Presidential years.

The FACT is that Hillary had only 70K fewer votes than Obama in 2012, despite the 2013 dismantling of the Voting Rights Act that allowed for the suppression of millions of votes -- and the Russian hacking of the election.

She supported unions, the $15 minimum wage, free public college, Obamacare, contraception and abortion rights, and JOBS, JOBS, JOBS.

But she didn't support RACISM or WRECKING THE ENVIRONMENT or LOOSE GUN REGULATIONS, and those positions of hers did cost some votes.

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Democrats being just a big city party for some groups but not others has already failed. [View all] LBM20 Jul 2017 OP

If Dems go after rural votes they've failed. If Dems go after white wasupaloopa Jul 2017 #1

No,they must go after ALL of them, as I said, with a strong overarching economic message. LBM20 Jul 2017 #2

This. Skidmore Jul 2017 #15

Whch People? Exactly? Me. Jul 2017 #3

You don't think they count as people? BainsBane Jul 2017 #14

In which county do you live? MineralMan Jul 2017 #4

thank you. +++++++++++++ JHan Jul 2017 #7

+1000 sheshe2 Jul 2017 #8

Thank you. Skidmore Jul 2017 #16

+1000 JustAnotherGen Jul 2017 #17

"There is no 'they.' There is only 'you.'" betsuni Jul 2017 #18

+1000. We are "they." Hortensis Jul 2017 #41

There is no they, only we... Wounded Bear Jul 2017 #43

Speaking as someone who's been to many a committee meeting crazycatlady Jul 2017 #5

Really sorry about your county. Our Dem clubs (plural) are much more vital and inclusive... Hekate Jul 2017 #11

+1000 Duppers Jul 2017 #36

Back when I was a young guy who earned little, I still went to those MineralMan Jul 2017 #42

Good post and good responses. Hortensis Jul 2017 #44

I live in a small rural town way up in the mtns and I guarantee samnsara Jul 2017 #6

Amen, Sara. +++++ Duppers Jul 2017 #38

They'd better have more than a message. cloudbase Jul 2017 #9

Just one small point in your Op. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #10

You have nailed THE issue of the 21st century... Moostache Jul 2017 #29

Notably, Dems did not make these people the kind of fools Hortensis Jul 2017 #47

"They heard our message--and rejected us. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #48

And the vast majority are not going to change. On the plus side... Hortensis Jul 2017 #49

Democrats need all the help they can get... kentuck Jul 2017 #12

Conservative Democrat ... GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #52

When you refuse to look at exit poll data BainsBane Jul 2017 #13

+1 betsuni Jul 2017 #19

Wow Me. Jul 2017 #21

Thank you. Bains. nt sheshe2 Jul 2017 #22

A...freakin'...men....thank you! Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #27

Sorry, you posted a significant factual error Awsi Dooger Jul 2017 #34

Clinton ran against Trump, not Obama. BainsBane Jul 2017 #39

Great post Gothmog Jul 2017 #51

+1 Starry Messenger Jul 2017 #53

I don't believe in "exit polls". Lord_at_War Jul 2017 #54

What the fuck? ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #20

The Democratic party didn't decide to "be mainly an urban party," to "go corporate" (whatever pnwmom Jul 2017 #23

Civil Rights. sheshe2 Jul 2017 #24

Not a fan of remaking the Democratic Party in the image of the GOP BainsBane Jul 2017 #25

LOL Skittles Jul 2017 #26

A strong message of economic justice will help Warpy Jul 2017 #28

The modern economy has little use for people with no skills/infrastructure (rural America). LonePirate Jul 2017 #30

There are so many racist dog whistles in this post, I'm not even sure why I'm replying... Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #31

Great post, thank you! At least the OP didn't have "neoliberal" in it. betsuni Jul 2017 #32

Lol...that was all that was missing! Thanks! Docreed2003 Jul 2017 #35

Thank you nini Jul 2017 #46

so things like this are allowed but people are not allowed to post things objecting to it JI7 Jul 2017 #33

True. betsuni Jul 2017 #37

What is it that you object to? SharonClark Jul 2017 #55

I wake to another day of division/ dems are failed crap OP But I see a lot have already spoken up lunasun Jul 2017 #40

I must have missed the Dems not working on help for the unemployed and poor nini Jul 2017 #45

Can you articulate the Republican "strong, clear, simple jobs message"? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2017 #50