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MADem

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21. I tend to squint a bit at shit coming out of FORBES magazine (because that mag owner is a
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 08:50 AM
Jan 2016

libertarian lunatic, among other reasons) but someone on his staff did do an analysis of the "buying power" of this wage:


...They’re clearly using some rather strange exchange rate as 110 DK is $16.35 at today’s rate. Still impressive as compared to the US.

But that’s not enough: if we want to compare wages we need to compare what they will actually buy. That is, we must adjust for Purchasing Power Parity, or PPP. And the correction there is 1.4. That is, in terms of what you can actually buy with any amount of money in the Danish economy we must divide the market exchange rate by 1.4. Which gives us $11.70 per hour as the Danish minimum wage.


Now, you might think that this is all fiddling around with the numbers and you’d be right. But it’s also fiddling around with the numbers in the correct manner. As we can see when we go to look at the OECD’s numbers for “real minimum wage”. That’s here. Set that to hourly and you’ll see that, among the OECD countries, the Australian minimum wage is in fact. $10.50, The French $10.70 and so on. That’s the “real” minimum wage, that’s what that minimum would buy you, in America, at current American prices.

Denmark’s not on that list as it being a very small country it’s not in that OECD database. But the corrections I’ve applied are exactly what are used to correct those OECD numbers.

And there’s one other thing to note. A $15 an hour minimum wage in the US (by definition, PPP numbers are set to US prices, so $15 is both the market and PPP exchange rate value for the US) would be nearly 50% higher than the minimum wage in any other OECD country, ie any other rich and large country.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/08/12/denmark-does-not-have-a-20-minimum-wage-try-11-70-instead/

At the end of the day, though, we need to move the minimum wage up. The federal wage in this century is an utter disgrace. It's just not enough. Odds are, as I said elsewhere, that the Congress will be dragged, kicking, screaming, whining, crying, by states and cities that do the right thing FIRST...leaving the federal government to follow along, as they do.

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Burger King Worker [View all] Scuba Jan 2016 OP
So you're saying US workers don't deserve $20 a hour? brooklynite Jan 2016 #1
Can we hook an alternator to that spin and generate electricity? hobbit709 Jan 2016 #2
It would probably power half of Manhattan. Cassiopeia Jan 2016 #8
Half of Manhattan? BeanMusical Jan 2016 #25
yes but the methane would choke us to death reddread Jan 2016 #42
Ha! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #50
Funny, coming from a fan of the "champion" of the $15/hour movement who only supports $12. Scuba Jan 2016 #3
...who's been criticized for not supporting a "real" living wage of $15... brooklynite Jan 2016 #4
If you're willing to work with us.... daleanime Jan 2016 #47
Wait. What? Orrex Jan 2016 #10
2 minute response time! Whoo-ooo! Divernan Jan 2016 #13
Right...because I'm wealthy brooklynite Jan 2016 #15
LOL. You should be BUYING 'Merican!!! 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2016 #55
Lol! BeanMusical Jan 2016 #31
LOL! SammyWinstonJack Jan 2016 #51
It's gotten embarrassing for me to be from Brooklyn... The_Commonist Jan 2016 #17
Can't we all pleasantly agree that Denmark has a system that is better for people than here? mucifer Jan 2016 #30
What?!? Sanders is running?!? Thanks Obama... Bubzer Jan 2016 #34
Must give credit where credit is due. You got your response in within two minutes. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #61
Did that meme emanate from THiS "Golden Arches" Mickey D meme? MADem Jan 2016 #5
And how many fast food workers here are full time? hobbit709 Jan 2016 #9
I think a lot are, nowadays. It wasn't the case in years past, when fast food work MADem Jan 2016 #14
If sales taxes are more than triple madville Jan 2016 #16
I tend to squint a bit at shit coming out of FORBES magazine (because that mag owner is a MADem Jan 2016 #21
My guess is that the PPP is way off Sanity Claws Jan 2016 #52
Like I said, I do tend to squint a bit!!! nt MADem Jan 2016 #54
There are numerous other factors that need to be considered: bvar22 Jan 2016 #60
Thanks for posting Omaha Steve Jan 2016 #6
The guy in Denmark also has healthcare Doctor_J Jan 2016 #7
That's the entire purpose and goal of the Repig/Turd Way project. hifiguy Jan 2016 #62
How much ryan_cats Jan 2016 #11
At current exchange rates madville Jan 2016 #19
I stepped in a McDonalds LittleGirl Jan 2016 #27
And their prices are more than double what they are here madville Jan 2016 #12
So double my food price, but triple my wage and give me benefits including health care ... Scuba Jan 2016 #20
Closer to double the wage, U.S. Average is $9 an hour madville Jan 2016 #23
You're using American's right to buy insurance as an argument? Holy crap! Scuba Jan 2016 #24
It's a factor, yes. madville Jan 2016 #32
is that a "right"? reddread Jan 2016 #44
What are the gun laws in Denmark? Sancho Jan 2016 #18
K&R! Thanks for the post, Scuba. Duval Jan 2016 #22
Interesting range of responses to this n/t n2doc Jan 2016 #26
Yet some deny the Democratic Party has been infiltrated by conservatives. Scuba Jan 2016 #28
And I would bet there are some correlations between those folks and the responses here n/t n2doc Jan 2016 #29
I have absolutely no doubts you're right on that. Bubzer Jan 2016 #37
Kick and R BeanMusical Jan 2016 #33
Whooper Meal in Denmark is $7.87 James48 Jan 2016 #35
memes that take 4 seconds to read aren't good arguments- snooper2 Jan 2016 #36
Interesting summary of differences... stillwaiting Jan 2016 #38
Yep. Lower grocery prices and higher fast food prices. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #39
I don't think those numbers include the 25% VAT though snooper2 Jan 2016 #40
That would be good to know, but local purchasing power is HIGHER in Denmark overall. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #41
They also have a FRACTION of our population, almost 6 million or so...vs 330 million snooper2 Jan 2016 #43
And we are still a wealthier nation per capita than Denmark. stillwaiting Jan 2016 #45
"There's lies, damned lies, and statistics"-Mark Twain hobbit709 Jan 2016 #53
A roughly 16% higher cost of living for a substantually higher standard of living is doable. Bubzer Jan 2016 #46
...wow. SoapBox Jan 2016 #48
Congress could raise the Federal minimum to $15 an hour TODAY _if the RW in Congress wanted to_ Sunlei Jan 2016 #49
If Burger King was the ONLY place to work Facility Inspector Jan 2016 #56
Oops. Replied to the wrong person. Iggo Jan 2016 #57
My 1st job was at BK when min wage was $2.30. Ultimately I was "promoted" to manager corkhead Jan 2016 #58
Burger King probably still upset that they had to pull back from becoming a Canadian company... cascadiance Jan 2016 #59
By my calculation Bernblu Jan 2016 #63
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