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41. Been hearing that for a looooong time

Reply to RadiationTherapy (Reply #34)

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 12:25 PM

Aug 2015

and the porcine keep getting fatter and happier and we let them get ever closer to literally having us for dinner.

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Health Insurers plan to Merge. Rates to Rise. We Blew it with Healthcare [View all] Armstead Aug 2015 OP

yup Skittles Aug 2015 #1

No, we didn't blow it. We took a significant step ahead, especially with the Medicaid expansion, pnwmom Aug 2015 #2

The more the insurance companies fuck up TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #46

The "reform" 8s specifically designed to limit their fuck ups and putting the full faith and credit TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author Journeyman Aug 2015 #3

Of course, a single payer would have been better but we must give credit to Obama Live and Learn Aug 2015 #4

I would hope so, but it doesn't seem to work that way -- We put up with abuse Armstead Aug 2015 #25

Haven't the profits for health care insurers been limited? LakeVermilion Aug 2015 #5

80% of premiums must be paid back as benefits.... Adrahil Aug 2015 #6

As long as Pharma can keep charging outrageous prices, and providers and hospitals djean111 Aug 2015 #11

They wouldn't have signed off on Heritage Care without the guaranteed profits Doctor_J Aug 2015 #36

I've been squabbling with my insurer over 30 day Rx vs 90 day Ilsa Aug 2015 #73

You might want to call Costco, if there is one near you. djean111 Aug 2015 #75

I'll look into it. Thanks! nt Ilsa Aug 2015 #79

Let's suppose there is a business that makes $100 million in revenue annually. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #15

Lol, it doesn't have anything to do with "revenue" cbdo2007 Aug 2015 #44

So where do insurance company revenues come from? Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #45

And I'm sure they'll all follow the law! Doctor_J Aug 2015 #22

Yes still_one Aug 2015 #76

who could have predicted that? KG Aug 2015 #7

Example of a current merger. Lint Head Aug 2015 #8

Example of a major talking point issue on the ACA in tonight's debate. Bet on it. kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #9

This has been floating around for a while. I think they don't care about the politics of it Armstead Aug 2015 #27

A public option would have helped immensely. Wish POTUS had fought for one like he does the TPP. Scuba Aug 2015 #10

A public option is exactly what was needed to prevent this problem. Vinca Aug 2015 #12

I, too, wish he had fought for a public option like he fights for the TPP. nt City Lights Aug 2015 #30

There is nothing to prevent one TODAY except for the will of Congress. pnwmom Aug 2015 #50

As soon as the health insurance corps became the central feature of the ACA Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #13

President Sanders will use this to rally public support Martin Eden Aug 2015 #14

And once they all merge Blue_Adept Aug 2015 #16

Yeah, that's gonna happen Armstead Aug 2015 #28

So now monopolies are good! Doctor_J Aug 2015 #37

The invisible hand of the market is spanking us yet again deutsey Aug 2015 #17

Well, we've always needed health care. raouldukelives Aug 2015 #18

I actually think it will be better with just a few large insurers. First, providers are combining Hoyt Aug 2015 #19

Thanks for the view on the other side. nc4bo Aug 2015 #20

Hoyt is a dedicated corporatist who believes in the innate benevolence of Doctor_J Aug 2015 #23

I'd rather regulate a few greedy insurance CEOs than hundreds of them, which is what we have now. Hoyt Aug 2015 #24

I it;s gonna be a business, I'd rather there be a diverse and competative marketplace Armstead Aug 2015 #31

Admittingly on 1st read, I lost it. nc4bo Aug 2015 #26

There will be NO oversight -- It will be a true monopoly controlled by the oligarchs Armstead Aug 2015 #33

Tell you what, call up a doctor's office and tell them you will be paying cash since you are Hoyt Aug 2015 #49

I disagree Armstead Aug 2015 #29

There's a reason we have anti-trust laws. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #89

And don't use them for utilities and the like, and get by with a few auto companies, etc. Hoyt Aug 2015 #90

Citing public utilities as the shining example of good monopolies wouldn't fly in Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #91

Nuclear, people grouse about everything -- "the rent is too high," medical care costs to much, Hoyt Aug 2015 #92

No, they're grousing because fees are being collected for alt energy development only Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #93

yup. had to be a thundering idiot not to see this coming Doctor_J Aug 2015 #21

Saying with respect to DUers before then insulting doesn't mythology Aug 2015 #39

THere were possible manipulations. Remember the All Powerful Joe Liberman... Armstead Aug 2015 #43

I don't think that those who hold such views consider it insulting Doctor_J Aug 2015 #47

excellent response, Doctor_J Skittles Aug 2015 #72

I don't think he meant 'respect' in that sense of the word. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #55

Someone would have to be a thundering idiot to not see that CONGRESS had to approve this law, pnwmom Aug 2015 #51

When one shark gobbles up all the others tularetom Aug 2015 #32

I think this is a necessary step, though it disgusts me deeply. RadiationTherapy Aug 2015 #34

Been hearing that for a looooong time Armstead Aug 2015 #41

Yes, 2109 promises to be a great year! Doctor_J Aug 2015 #48

Hahaaha. It's so discouraging. RadiationTherapy Aug 2015 #68

Strengthen Anti-Trust laws, in response. closeupready Aug 2015 #35

That " Choice and Competition" nonsense was a bold-faced lie from our current president n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #38

"American Association of Family Physicians expressed deep concerns" Doctor_J Aug 2015 #40

If your "annual" before was $500, as a 60 year old, you had a junk policy. pnwmom Aug 2015 #54

Actually it was quite a good policy. Thanks for inquiring Doctor_J Aug 2015 #57

The ACA created a marketplace for individual policies. The changes your EMPLOYER decided pnwmom Aug 2015 #63

He stated, "I will insist on a public option" Doctor_J Aug 2015 #65

Link please. I don't believe Obama said that because no President can force pnwmom Aug 2015 #66

Here nationalize the fed Aug 2015 #70

The sound doesn't work on my old computer. So I'll take your word. pnwmom Aug 2015 #71

He also campaigned against mandated purchasing - eom dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #85

He shouldn't have done that because there was no way they could make it affordable pnwmom Aug 2015 #86

But he did dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #87

+1 Hoyt Aug 2015 #59

"Will they screw us?" is exactly the same question as "Can they can screw us?". When the Public GoneFishin Aug 2015 #42

Consider it one step closer to a "single payer"... n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #52

Who's this 'we'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #53

Bernie Sanders was part of the "we" who supported it, after Ted Kennedy died and it became clear pnwmom Aug 2015 #56

Actually Sanders has called it a "great Republican solution" and disdained it until the very end Doctor_J Aug 2015 #60

He voted for it at the end because he knew nothing better could get passed without a supermajority. pnwmom Aug 2015 #62

Remember when we all thought Obama was about the "public option"? That would have prevented this... dmosh42 Aug 2015 #58

Remember when Ted Kennedy was alive? He would have provided the essential vote for pnwmom Aug 2015 #64

we had a decent bill from the house that included a public option questionseverything Aug 2015 #82

It was off to a rocky start, granted but, I fully expect Bernie to hammer it home. Hiraeth Aug 2015 #61

But but but...we already have single payer...er...okay for people 65 and older. Rex Aug 2015 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Aug 2015 #69

Two things have never come from mega-mergers hifiguy Aug 2015 #74

Government failed to do its job as a restraint in monopoly power... Armstead Aug 2015 #77

And yet somehow ibegurpard Aug 2015 #81

merge 'em all together and then nationalize the beast! Agony Aug 2015 #78

People are claiming RIGHT IN THIS THREAD ibegurpard Aug 2015 #80

That ol' Catch 22 in action Armstead Aug 2015 #83

Elect Bernie Sanders 2016. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #84