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23. Greece has had a civil war and military coup within living memory...

Wed Jul 1, 2015, 09:35 AM

Jul 2015

...are the masterminds in the EU so certain this can't happen again? And how about Spain, with its Great Depression-style unemployment seemingly lasting forever? Anyone recall the Spanish Civil War and Franco? If the Greek people, pushed to the wall and under open blackmail, pass the "referendum", this might keep the crisis under control--for awhile. But it will also mean continued economic depression there. How long before they simply decide that "democracy" is a sham, and kick over the traces, like Europeans did in the 1930s? I think the EU, and especially the Euro, is in its death-throes. What comes after it isn't pleasant to contemplate.

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Joseph Stiglitz: Europe’s war on Greek democracy [View all] marmar Jun 2015 OP

See tons of sticks with no carrots dembotoz Jun 2015 #1

I think Stiglitz' neo-Keynsianism is out of favor with the Democratic Party KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #2

+ 1000 nt abelenkpe Jun 2015 #5

I read that when a nation signs onto to be part of the EU they agree to penalties if they withdraw fasttense Jun 2015 #6

No plan, no penalties GermanWatcher Jun 2015 #9

Thanks for the info fasttense Jul 2015 #20

Hear hear! ananda Jun 2015 #3

Globalization does indeed suck FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #15

No worries, really. Jerry442 Jun 2015 #4

Yet another demonstration that governments cannot be run like family budgets. HereSince1628 Jun 2015 #7

It's also another demonstration that the increasingly abstract nature The2ndWheel Jun 2015 #10

It is the hollowing out of nations. Its happening here as well. FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #16

I fear that is what TPP is about. Enthusiast Jun 2015 #18

That and the race to the bottom hifiguy Jul 2015 #25

The more people are shoved down.... daleanime Jul 2015 #26

The objective is world conquest hifiguy Jul 2015 #27

The attitude of bankers sulphurdunn Jun 2015 #8

You are not alone in thinking that way FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #14

And if the referendum (dumb idea by a dumb leader) puts the Greeks in favor of payment, what then? randome Jun 2015 #11

Neo-liberalism is the death of democracy malaise Jun 2015 #12

Yes, it really is. Enslavement, or liberty? Gee, difficult choice. closeupready Jul 2015 #22

It should be clear to all watching that FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #13

So, in which court would the European Union be put geek tragedy Jul 2015 #21

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2015 #17

K&R blackspade Jun 2015 #19

Greece has had a civil war and military coup within living memory... First Speaker Jul 2015 #23

The predominant theme: it is about power and democracy much more than money and economics. Jefferson23 Jul 2015 #24