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92. You cite polls more than a year and a half out from the election and ask me if I know voters?

Wed Apr 1, 2015, 10:50 PM

Apr 2015

Keep making your speculative claims and belittling others for doing the same. It only reflects upon you.

How were the polls for Hillary a year and a half out for the 2008 election? Who even knew Obama a year and a half out from the 2008 election? Maybe you should "know" those voters. Hillary was the one with the commanding lead in the polls, how did it work out for her that time? Hillary is a good non-candidate but as soon as she commits... not so much, she will do even worse in a general election.

If Hillary is the Democratic candidate for the general election, whoever is the Republican candidate will win. Any other Democrat will beat whoever is the Republican candidate. It is critical that we find someone to best Hillary in the primaries. How do I know? Because I know voters and I know Hillary's history!

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Bernie Sanders: I Could Beat Hillary Clinton [View all] Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 OP

Give them one debate and Hillary would be burnt toast. Scuba Apr 2015 #1

" " TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #2

I'll third that swilton Apr 2015 #9

Count me in. Hell, I could beat Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #118

Exactly. If Bernie ran a lot of people would sign back up as a Democrat in states where it is cui bono Apr 2015 #262

Yep. I think the party establishment will do all it can to prevent the two actually Marr Apr 2015 #22

They are scared shitless of Bernie. JEB Apr 2015 #27

They've spent decades walking us to the right, offering less and less, Marr Apr 2015 #33

Or sticking your damn HAND in the pot, for that matter! beerandjesus Apr 2015 #36

Based on the responses to this thread, I'd say you're right. smokey nj Apr 2015 #66

Who is scared shitless? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #297

If you go back to the post to whom I was replying JEB Apr 2015 #316

i read it and I am calling bullshit on it... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #324

Let them debate. Are you JEB Apr 2015 #339

There would be nothing left of HRC but a pair of smoking shoes. hifiguy Apr 2015 #29

Ohhh...you don't want to look in there. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #52

What's in the box? /nt AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #62

He better bring his fanciest college words then.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #298

All he needs to do is tell the truth. Octafish Apr 2015 #330

Are you calling her a liar? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #331

Is misrepresenting what I said the only way you can win an argument? Octafish Apr 2015 #336

How so? You think Bernie is the only one that can "tell the truth"....you think she won't VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #337

Until the topic shifted to Foreign Affairs ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #40

Bernie would have the answers. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #44

Okay ... We'll see ... Maybe. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #51

Bernie doesn't want another war. That makes him the man for the job right there. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #59

And that goes to the ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #60

I think Bernie's foreign policy would be to lead by example. Respect for the USA would be restored Enthusiast Apr 2015 #61

I think you are confusing your lack of respect for the USA and that of the world ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #69

Riiiight.. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #71

Google can be your friend. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #73

And Google can sometimes not be your friend, as well Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #96

True. Depending on what you find. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #101

The rest of the world does NOT view the USA favorably. Best case they think of us .... Scuba Apr 2015 #90

Source? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #93

World governments are a tiny percentage of the population of the world. merrily Apr 2015 #105

The vast majority of the world's population give less than a damn about ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #117

Really? Then why have we been getting attacked since Bubba's administration? merrily Apr 2015 #119

Statistics? Link? cui bono Apr 2015 #270

Exactly. cui bono Apr 2015 #268

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.. that PBO is only admired more than bush bc the bar isn't very Cha Apr 2015 #204

Really? Accusing Enthusiast of lacking respect for the US? merrily Apr 2015 #106

I was using his/her words ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #120

No, he never said he lacked respect for the US. merrily Apr 2015 #122

yeah, okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #131

Yes, claiming Enthusiast lacks respect for the US is a personal insult. merrily Apr 2015 #133

Yeah. Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #145

I have zero respect for a Neo-Con foreign policy that looks at war as a first resort. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #207

?Okay? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #214

Obama just lead by example. Iran 4 02 15 sheshe2 Apr 2015 #202

I agree. Now, if we could only keep the knuckledraggers from doing something to undermine it. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #206

and billions wasted on military misadventures.. Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #188

I am with you. Military misadventures is a good way to put it. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #208

Meh, I have a feeling Sanders can answer the "and then what, too." merrily Apr 2015 #103

We shall see ... Masybe. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #114

I hope we do get a chance to see. I know of no reason to think him stupid or uninformed. merrily Apr 2015 #116

I hope we do, too ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #121

Distinction without a difference possibly, but no reason to assume he does not have that answer. merrily Apr 2015 #123

PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #209

foreign affairs? dolphinsandtuna Apr 2015 #180

I agree! n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #42

Hell yes.... daleanime Apr 2015 #48

+1000 MissDeeds Apr 2015 #53

That's why there will be no primary. L0oniX Apr 2015 #79

Well, no serious primary challenge from the left, anyway---unless merrily Apr 2015 #107

That's not for certain johnnysad Apr 2015 #219

Bernie's classy enough to attack the issues, and his opponents positions, not her personally. Scuba Apr 2015 #220

attacking the issues could seem like it is attacking her personally johnnysad Apr 2015 #222

It could, but as I said, Bernie's too classy to let that happen. No doubt ... Scuba Apr 2015 #225

That is the same exact thoughts I had n/t Victor_c3 Apr 2015 #307

Yes she would! davidsilver Apr 2015 #342

That's probably the most meaningless poll ever, since most people never heard of him. arcane1 Apr 2015 #3

She had an 18 point lead in 2007. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2015 #171

How many Presidential candidates have you seen who said they couldn't win? brooklynite Apr 2015 #4

Not doing anything to organize and raise money? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #46

As you well know, he is not a self described Socialist, but a Democratic Socialist and he has been merrily Apr 2015 #108

No he has not... brooklynite Apr 2015 #128

Yes he has. He's said so on TV. No clue how you purport to know his motives for traveling better merrily Apr 2015 #130

If it makes you feel better to believe, knock yourself out brooklynite Apr 2015 #141

I believe Sanders' statement about Sanders over your statement about Sanders. merrily Apr 2015 #143

Then you have nothing to worry about...and neither do I brooklynite Apr 2015 #146

You won't be happy with the outcome if you do hear people complain? merrily Apr 2015 #147

I give very little credence on fundraisers.. Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #189

Amazing enough, I'm ALWAYS 100% for the Democratic nominee... brooklynite Apr 2015 #191

Oh, believe me, once people meet Bernie Sanders, they'll dump Clinton like a hot potato Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #193

This panoply of proposals sounds indistinguishable from Dennis Kucinich... brooklynite Apr 2015 #194

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I don't want to disappoint you, but not every DUer opposes Third Way. merrily Apr 2015 #271

I don't worry about the S-Word these days. Or the L-Word for that matter. stone space Apr 2015 #306

Regardless of how YOU feel, the average voters looks askance at Socialists... brooklynite Apr 2015 #308

This is 2015. stone space Apr 2015 #309

With the exception of a local election in liberal Seattle..... brooklynite Apr 2015 #311

Yes, Bernie can, and he'll get my enthusatic help It is Tuesday Apr 2015 #5

I must say he has the Right Attitude. Fighting Spirit. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #6

most of them fight for themselves and big donors. Bernie is fighting for us. merrily Apr 2015 #109

Isn't it nice to have someone in our corner? It's about time. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #210

Did I misread this post? It says Clinton leads Sanders 47% to 8%, just makes me wonder Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #7

You think a head-to-head primary match-up between HRC and Sanders would be KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #10

Do you think that? I said I am looking forward to a good primary, I do not want to look like the Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #12

You didn't say it; you insinuated it and you know it. I called your comment out and now KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #15

I played this game with the same poster yesterday. Marr Apr 2015 #24

LOL. True. We all see him or her. No need to reach for the high blood pressure meds. merrily Apr 2015 #124

Do you think a good primary needs to be a clown show like the GOP has been having? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #34

you should probably answer his question first instead of Phlem Apr 2015 #45

Goodness. You and your tricky insinuations. You've got us all in a twist. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #84

As if Sanders and Bachmann are indistinguishable. That's hilarious. merrily Apr 2015 #125

Right. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #148

I think you said that. morningfog Apr 2015 #64

"Clown show". Uh-huh. /nt Marr Apr 2015 #26

Just let the two of them have a debate on Primetime TV and those numbers sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #43

Exactly, hence the desperate attempt to marginalize Bernie. JEB Apr 2015 #340

Even in the first race he won as mayor of Burlington VT, he was not given a chance karynnj Apr 2015 #50

I've been saying the same thing, Bernie wins Iowa and New Hampshire A Simple Game Apr 2015 #67

Consider a variation on 1968 karynnj Apr 2015 #74

The Party was not discouraging primaries then. It is now. merrily Apr 2015 #129

Not totally true karynnj Apr 2015 #157

Not at all clear what you are saying. AFAIK, the Party did not actively discourage primaries until merrily Apr 2015 #159

I agree on 2016 versus either 2008 or 2004 karynnj Apr 2015 #172

I understood that, but your reply to me had nothing to do with my Reply 129 to you. merrily Apr 2015 #185

He won so much that the Rs and Ds joined against him to back one candidate between them--and he won merrily Apr 2015 #126

I don't care for Hillary either but wouldn't go so far as to call her a clown. A Simple Game Apr 2015 #63

Thread winner. merrily Apr 2015 #127

Don't you dare compare Sanders to someone like Bachman or Santorum. merrily Apr 2015 #110

The polls continue to be meaningless at this point. Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #190

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Fusion interview link herding cats Apr 2015 #8

He's devoted his life to the right reasons. The only money he made in Congress was from book sales merrily Apr 2015 #112

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Well then do it!!! Rex Apr 2015 #11

He needs money first. He's been trying to raise it. Anyone who wants him to run should donate. merrily Apr 2015 #115

I will donate when I can. Rex Apr 2015 #174

https://berniesanders.com/ dolphinsandtuna Apr 2015 #181

I know. My post replied to you, but was meant for anyone interested who was reading merrily Apr 2015 #184

BREAKING: Potential Candidate Refuses To Torpedo Candidacy Before It Begins. n/t Orsino Apr 2015 #13

exactly. what on earth did the idiot expect him to say? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #21

He might...but he cannot beat the Republicans... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #14

ANY democrat can beat anyone of the nutters and morans currently in the gop clown car... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #20

You have any proof of that? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #23

Proof? I was thinking about asking you the same for your claim in post #14. n/t A Simple Game Apr 2015 #72

what of that needs explaining to YOU? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #87

You cite polls more than a year and a half out from the election and ask me if I know voters? A Simple Game Apr 2015 #92

and you keep telling yourself that polls don't matter VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #113

And if you knew polling history you would know polls this far out are meaningless. n/t A Simple Game Apr 2015 #165

Oh really? Who told you that? A scientist? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #182

Nope. Reality. History. You know...those meaningless things... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #313

Reality and history tells quite the opposite story... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #325

Yes. Yes I do. Now get in my time machine and I'll show you... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #314

Bernie couldn't beat anyone except David Duke Reter Apr 2015 #310

Sure, he can! stone space Apr 2015 #82

How? He is not even popular among Democrats VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #88

He hasn't even announced, yet. stone space Apr 2015 #99

and you think if he just "announces" that will make him more popular than even Joe Biden? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #111

I'll see you at the 2016 Iowa Democratic Caucus. stone space Apr 2015 #136

Yeah you will...How confident are YOU? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #183

So you look at this as a gambling opportunuty? stone space Apr 2015 #211

No I look at it as an opportunity to prove you don't stand that much behind your words! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #216

Ah...just trolling Democrats. Got you. stone space Apr 2015 #218

I AM a Democrat....who supports the winner of our Primary whomever that may be... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #221

Whetever you are, feel free to keep your gambling addiction to yourself. stone space Apr 2015 #224

No gambling addiction here....I am just apparently more confident with my position than VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #228

I don't view gambling as an expression of confidence. stone space Apr 2015 #229

I view the fact that it made you quiver a sign of your less than confident position... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #231

Gambling doesn't make me quiver. stone space Apr 2015 #232

It made you quiver over THIS position.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #233

Not at all. I understand that you like gambling. That's cool. stone space Apr 2015 #234

No actually I don't.....its just that I am confident in my position... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #235

You are the gambler, quite obviously. stone space Apr 2015 #236

Yeah nobody that isn't a "degenerate gambler" ever uses that phrase... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #237

Is anybody here is insisting that I smoke pot or drink alchohol? stone space Apr 2015 #238

WTF? "Acts the way I do".....because I am willing to support my position? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #239

By "acts the way you do" I mean bashing folks for not... stone space Apr 2015 #241

"bashing folks for NOT drinking or smoking pot" VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #244

You attempted to rope me in on your gambling endevor, and... stone space Apr 2015 #245

Noooooo you accused ME of having a gambling addiction... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #249

My vote is not a bet. stone space Apr 2015 #253

Yes it is....its the most valuable thing you own in the United States.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #254

No, my vote is not a bet. It's a vote. (nt) stone space Apr 2015 #257

and that vote has value....and you are placing it on candidates who have varying chances VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #259

There's no gambling allowed in the 2016 Iowa Democratic Caucus. stone space Apr 2015 #261

So nobody ever bets with anything except money in your neighborhood? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #263

I've never met anybody as fanatical about gambling as you are. stone space Apr 2015 #265

Thank you for the subthread stone space!!! cui bono Apr 2015 #272

Merry go round? Is that what you call getting schooled on statistics and probability? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #296

Okay, you are almost making me use the rofl smiley... cui bono Apr 2015 #300

Yeah that is what I would say too if I were you.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #302

What does Sanders have to do with you saying a vote is a bet? n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #321

and that is what happens when you jump into the tail end of a conversation.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #323

You stated above that a vote is a bet. I'm just asking you to explain how that is. cui bono Apr 2015 #343

Oh now I am a "Fanatical degenerate Gamber"!!! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #276

The word "degenerate" is yours. stone space Apr 2015 #281

Oh that is right.....you called me an "gambling addict" not a degenerate... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #282

It's not like you're going out of your way to hide it here. stone space Apr 2015 #283

Hiding what? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #284

Your gambling fanaticism. (nt) stone space Apr 2015 #285

hahahahahahahaha!!!! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #286

No, the one who insists that strangers help enable their addiction... stone space Apr 2015 #287

I haven't enabled anyone..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #288

Does your candidate know about you? stone space Apr 2015 #293

Are they supposed to? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #294

TIAA-CREF stone space Apr 2015 #305

This has been very enlightening. bravenak Apr 2015 #301

then you wouldn't be risking your vote....you would go with the choice who has the best chance VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #303

I just don't see voting the same way you do. bravenak Apr 2015 #319

everything is a gamble...LIFE is a gamble.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #326

Um. I guess that since I'm not a gambler, I just don't see it. bravenak Apr 2015 #334

omg... you've outdone yourself VR. cui bono Apr 2015 #273

Don't you look at "odds of winning" statistics too? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #275

How does that make voting betting? n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #277

its called an analogy.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #278

No it's not. Do you understand analogies? cui bono Apr 2015 #279

yes it is and I made the analogy.....I think I know what I meant... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #280

No, that's not how voting works at all, it's not the same as betting. Sheesh. cui bono Apr 2015 #291

Well scientifically yes it is.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #295

"Scientifically yes it is"... please explain that to me! n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #299

Here you go... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #304

How exactly does that show that a vote is a bet? cui bono Apr 2015 #320

EVERYTHING is a gamble....except death and taxes VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #327

Again... how does that explain how a vote is a bet? cui bono Apr 2015 #344

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That is what you think huh? That name recognition has nothing to do with her record whatsoever huh? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #251

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Of course they don't mean shit to you... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #267

Oh and I happen to be a happy Democrat (as by far most Democrats also agree with my choice) VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #274

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I'll take that bet! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #255

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I like my odds....Thank you... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #260

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BET! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #266

He has defeated the Republicans. Repeatedly. Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #192

and still his chances of winning the General against them is.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #289

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Bollocks. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #315

Who is calling for that? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #328

And that's why we need a contested primary... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #333

HRC out of touch with mainstream apparently, wants to re-frame income inequality problem on point Apr 2015 #16

Hillary will offer old, outdated solutions to our current problems. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #41

Mmmm crusty. L0oniX Apr 2015 #81

Old, new or whatever, we need ideas that are different from Third Way. And by we, I mean both merrily Apr 2015 #144

I think you have that wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #47

Unfortunately, uprisings may be coming if this is not addressed. I think your take is wrong. on point Apr 2015 #49

It's a conversation on the internet ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #57

It's not hard to connect income inequality/economic justice with jobs Fumesucker Apr 2015 #97

2 minutes? ...LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #104

Wait. merrily Apr 2015 #149

Why? Wait for what? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #156

For uprisings, in addition to lotteries. merrily Apr 2015 #163

But the New Deal and the Great Society ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #166

Either I don't understand your claim or it's wrong. merrily Apr 2015 #168

Or, perhaps, you don't understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #169

I do understand what they actually did and did not do, but we are not discussing merrily Apr 2015 #200

So perhaps, you'll be kind enough to ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #213

As a proud member of the very first class of Headstart....I concur VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #329

I had forgotten about that exchange ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #335

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Once Bernie gets more exposure in places that "haven't heard of him," RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #17

Very fair statement by Sanders. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #18

what's he supposed to say? nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #19

Is he dishonest or delusional, or just splitting hairs about the meaning of the word "could"? Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2015 #25

Anyone who really wonders if Sanders is dishonest is delusional. merrily Apr 2015 #138

Here on DU, it's usually Christians who are accused of being "dishonest or delusional". stone space Apr 2015 #312

Well then, announce your candidacy. leftofcool Apr 2015 #28

He's an old school gentleman. Ladies first. merrily Apr 2015 #139

Ew. I can't stand old school gentlemen. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #155

Yes, I was using the term to make a point. merrily Apr 2015 #158

If the voters in this country SamKnause Apr 2015 #30

Then become a Democrat and run. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #31

Please see Reply 139. merrily Apr 2015 #140

What woman who is a member of another party is talking about running? Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #178

I didn't say anything about one party or the other nor am I in the mood for a posting game. merrily Apr 2015 #187

Perhaps you should not have started with the whole "Bernie is a gentleman" game. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #195

Yeah, right. A tongue in cheek post is a "posting game." Get real. merrily Apr 2015 #196

Don't want to talk? Have a nice day. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #197

Then you should not have. merrily Apr 2015 #198

I ended the first sentence in a question. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #199

"Which meant that I guess you don't want to talk about Bernie" merrily Apr 2015 #203

Confidence is good... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #32

April Fool's jokes are pretty lame. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #35

Absolutely no comment Demeter Apr 2015 #37

Sanders is the best man in Congress...but nlkennedy Apr 2015 #38

K&R. Hope he runs as a Democrat. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #39

The question is could he beat the Republican candidate BainsBane Apr 2015 #54

He's got my vote if he runs. [nt] Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #55

Should Be, But Ain't HassleCat Apr 2015 #56

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Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #58

...aaaaaaaaaand shit just got real. WilliamPitt Apr 2015 #65

Sanders/Warren, or Warren/Sanders, 2016! AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #75

Real funny Renew Deal Apr 2015 #132

Is Bernie practicing lying to get ready for the campaign?... lame54 Apr 2015 #68

Run Bernie Run! /nt think Apr 2015 #70

April Fool Lil Missy Apr 2015 #76

! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #89

Eh. Less talk, more walk, Senator. MADem Apr 2015 #77

Oh come on now ...we all know that kissing Wall Street's ass is what wins elections. L0oniX Apr 2015 #78

Bernie's not my first choice.... PassingFair Apr 2015 #80

He might, but it would be another Dukakis in the General.. But damn interesting. Hoyt Apr 2015 #83

No it wouldn't. Nice try, though. smokey nj Apr 2015 #86

Well then, give us a scenario where Sanders wins a national election. brooklynite Apr 2015 #94

Meh. Hillary might not be able to win a general Presidential election. merrily Apr 2015 #150

Bernie gets more popular votes. Bernie gets more electoral votes. Zorra Apr 2015 #167

So, just like Dennis Kucinich? brooklynite Apr 2015 #170

No, Kucinich didn't get nominated. nt Zorra Apr 2015 #175

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I agree Renew Deal Apr 2015 #134

Sanders doesn't look like a president AlbertCat Apr 2015 #154

Yes Renew Deal Apr 2015 #160

Really? I can't think of a single one besides the guy on 24. /nt Marr Apr 2015 #164

Hillary does? Her own political genius husband didn't think so--and that was almost 8 years ago. merrily Apr 2015 #201

Yup! These guys inspired a lot of passion too, just not enough for the highest office in the land. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #85

You forgot Kerry. merrily Apr 2015 #152

Keep speaking, Bernie. Truth about the oligarchy trumps diversionary propaganda. woo me with science Apr 2015 #91

Yes, but not with many big donors, if any. People who want Bernie need to be donating as merrily Apr 2015 #153

Bernie will be strong in Iowa caucuses Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #95

The only way I would consider Bernie is if he runs as a Democrat. B Calm Apr 2015 #98

I would definitely vote for Bernie in the NH primary. Vinca Apr 2015 #100

Why am I reminded bmbmd Apr 2015 #102

He was incredibly brave though DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #161

Talk is cheap. Prove it!!! Run, Bernie, run!!! Zorra Apr 2015 #135

Go for it Bernie!!!!! get the red out Apr 2015 #137

Yes we can beat Hillary Bernie, do it! Autumn Apr 2015 #142

If Sanders runs, I will enthusiastically support him. ladjf Apr 2015 #151

The way the media is attacking her fiddodiddo Apr 2015 #162

Welcome back to DU/NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #186

If he got more exposure on more TV programs fadedrose Apr 2015 #173

Run Bernie, run. CentralMass Apr 2015 #176

What's he supposed to say? Beacool Apr 2015 #177

Well That Would Ensure A Republican Victory In 2016... Corey_Baker08 Apr 2015 #179

He's not a socialist. He's a Democratic Socialist. They are not the same. Somehow, some people merrily Apr 2015 #205

I believe HRC running as our nom would guarrentee a Repub victory..... peacebird Apr 2015 #230

We Than Perhaps You Should Take A Look At Recent Polling Data... Corey_Baker08 Apr 2015 #317

Recent polling data says HRC is inevitable. Just like it did before Obama won the nom in 08 peacebird Apr 2015 #322

It Also Shows Her Beating Every Republican Running For President Corey_Baker08 Apr 2015 #346

Two years out. Yes, she has name recognition. That is all. Just like he reintroduction book tour peacebird Apr 2015 #347

"I can beat Hillary" is the only reply Bernie could give to that question. merrily Apr 2015 #212

kick woo me with science Apr 2015 #215

kick woo me with science Apr 2015 #217

RUN Bernie RUN! DiverDave Apr 2015 #223

Then FFS run, Bernie! (nt) Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #226

I read in the tabloids Hillary was not going to be president, that means she will be president. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #227

I don't know how Hillary could counter Bernie's Joe Turner Apr 2015 #269

I would say it is plausable AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #292

He must mean "At tennis". nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #318

No. He means the Democratic nomination. Octafish Apr 2015 #332

He can't mean that, because he's not delusional. Nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #338

How would you know? Octafish Apr 2015 #345

Why the rush to marginalize Bernie? JEB Apr 2015 #341

kick woo me with science Apr 2015 #348