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In reply to the discussion: "General" George Will Just Claimed You Can't Win Wars From The Air. I Have Just Two Words. [View all]TrollBuster9090
(6,135 posts)74. He didn't issue any orders to attack Russians, no.
He ordered NATO troops to occupy the airport BEFORE the Russians arrived, so they couldn't occupy it. He DID NOT order NATO troops to take an airport that was already held by Russian troops. (Any force involved would have been against the Serb paramilitias, if they resisted the NATO troops.) The fact that the Russians hadn't yet occupied Pristina Airport is even contained in the quote YOU JUST POSTED.
As I told you in my first response, the Russians rolled into Kosovo a day ahead of schedule, with the intent of seizing Pristina Airport, and then flying in a division of Russian troops for the purpose of partitioning Kosovo. Something nobody in the world, other than the Serbs and Russians, thought was a good idea. Clark and NATO Secretary Solana were right to try and prevent it.
They didn't succeed because the French were apparently more worried about Serb snipers shooting at their helicopters than they were about the prospect of the Russians occupying half of Kosovo and turning it over to Serbia. So the Russians were allowed to seize the airport, and blocked entrances to it with their APCs. Clark then tried to thwart their plan to fly in Russian troops (in transport planes that were already loaded) by blocking the runway with NATO helicopters. In the end, the other NATO commanders convinced him that you could accomplish the same goal by simply blocking the roads OUT of the airport with APCs, rather than blocking the runway.
So, your reason for hating Clark is invalid. At no point did he ever order any NATO troops to attack Russian troops. You can go on hating him if you want to, but you'll have to find another reason. Sorry.
''He talked about what the risks were and what might happen if the Russian's got there first, and he said: 'Of course you have to get to the airport'.
As I told you in my first response, the Russians rolled into Kosovo a day ahead of schedule, with the intent of seizing Pristina Airport, and then flying in a division of Russian troops for the purpose of partitioning Kosovo. Something nobody in the world, other than the Serbs and Russians, thought was a good idea. Clark and NATO Secretary Solana were right to try and prevent it.
They didn't succeed because the French were apparently more worried about Serb snipers shooting at their helicopters than they were about the prospect of the Russians occupying half of Kosovo and turning it over to Serbia. So the Russians were allowed to seize the airport, and blocked entrances to it with their APCs. Clark then tried to thwart their plan to fly in Russian troops (in transport planes that were already loaded) by blocking the runway with NATO helicopters. In the end, the other NATO commanders convinced him that you could accomplish the same goal by simply blocking the roads OUT of the airport with APCs, rather than blocking the runway.
So, your reason for hating Clark is invalid. At no point did he ever order any NATO troops to attack Russian troops. You can go on hating him if you want to, but you'll have to find another reason. Sorry.
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"General" George Will Just Claimed You Can't Win Wars From The Air. I Have Just Two Words. [View all]
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
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I don't think he has local politics interests, so it wouldn't surprise me that he wasn't interested
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#14
Yes, and the Kurds are sweetening the irony by having a few women in combat, and also
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#8
Pretty much. They did run tanks at the end, but 95% of the war was won from the air. nt
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#15
Surprised you didn't invoke Nixon's bombing the Ho Chi Minh trail. But if you want to invoke WW II
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#12
Heh, okay, if you want to save some face with semantics, that's fine with me. But if Kosovo
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#41
I don't have to. It WAS won without ground troops. Proving that people who asininely claim that
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#65
Hahah! Okay, I guess you proved me wrong on a point I never tried to make.
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#67
Isn't this exactly what I've already said in at least half a dozen comments to this post?
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#70
As I said to another commenter, I don't think the surrender of the Japanese mainland was as
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#55
Bumper-sticker tactics not withstanding... a sustained air campaign conducted by NATO
LanternWaste
Jan 2015
#24
There were also suggestions that the CIA and other agencies started looting the Swiss bank accounts
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#33
Thank you. And, ironically, the air war against ISIS is probably more successful than the air war
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#35
Nobody assumed the use of two atom bombs were the sole cause of the Japanese surrender. Although
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#32
Sorry, but you've already demonstrated how ignorant you are of history by claiming we only dropped
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#38
I mentioned the Naval blockade in another comment higher up. But the main point was that
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#44
First, I never said (ANYWHERE) that the two A-bombs were the reason for Japan's surrender.
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#50
No - there is no evidence that the conventional bombing campaign would have induced surrender
hack89
Jan 2015
#54
I'm just sayin' You asserted there was absolutely no talk of surrender before the A-bombs in August
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#68
Bin Laden did his part against the Serbs, as well, fighting alongside US Special Forces.
leveymg
Jan 2015
#58
You might want to re-read what I actually wrote. I specifically asked how many NATO troops were
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#60
You mean the airport that the Russians had occupied illegally, a day ahead of schedule, in order to
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#64
You'll have to supply me with a direct quote from a credible source on that.
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#77
Here's an excerpt from General Jackson's own autobiography detailing the entire incident.
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#79
PS-By the way, if it makes you feel any better, while I backed the NATO position on Kosovo,
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#71
Sorry, didn't mean to use such a big glamor photo. It was the only one I could find.
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#69
I think George Will was also complicit in the theft of Howard Cosell's toupee. He's obviously
TrollBuster9090
Jan 2015
#78