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Moonwalk

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23. "What woman believes she's not equal to a man?"--as said before, "Nun..."
Sun Apr 22, 2012, 01:01 PM
Apr 2012

Or in this case, Nuns. I applaud them on the one hand for not folding, for standing tall and fighting back, but I'm mystified as to why any woman, thinking herself equal to a man, would join any religion that makes her, by fiat, perpetually inferior and beholding to men. These nuns have only to take a step sidewise into the Episcopalian church and they'll be able--if they wanted--to be bishops. They'd be able to vote and have their views matter. If they stayed as they were, they'd be under the leadership of women as well as men.

Why would a women who knows herself as equal to a man--certainly in regards to religious knowledge and vocation--be part of a religious organization that never has and never will (or so it seems) give equality to its women?

As if it ever made any sense to segregate the sexes in the first place. If the focus is on the spiritual, then why should anyone's gender matter?

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My wife's pretty sure she's better than I. Does that count? Scuba Apr 2012 #1
Hey she's married to a man who knows proper grammar! pink-o Apr 2012 #13
Both my grandmothers were schoolteachers, which helped me greatly.... Scuba Apr 2012 #14
MRS. SCUBA IS CORRECT Skittles Apr 2012 #50
LOL I'll pass that along. Scuba Apr 2012 #54
SHE HAS YOU TRAINED WELL!!! Skittles Apr 2012 #64
As I've often said, if I'm not the perfect husband.... Scuba Apr 2012 #67
I once told my wife that she was a better man than I. rhett o rick Apr 2012 #2
Hmm, I wonder why. :) - n/t coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #19
Did she reply ... surrealAmerican Apr 2012 #32
LOL, you are not series?? nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #49
If the men didn't believe it, they wouldn't work so hard to keep women down. nt siligut Apr 2012 #3
I think you nailed it. nm rhett o rick Apr 2012 #24
Hear, hear!!!! Beacool Apr 2012 #29
If they were serious, they'd quit that corrupt church and stop enabling... polichick Apr 2012 #4
I was part of the women's movement in the 60s lunatica Apr 2012 #5
I much prefer the company of intelligent, educated women. RC Apr 2012 #8
The women's movement in the 60s (and 70s) represents coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #20
In my opinion any person that thinks women are not Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #6
Here is the convolution glinda Apr 2012 #30
Is that why they wear dresses and the Pope Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #31
... glinda Apr 2012 #45
Not really, Christ is the groom and the church is his bride according to the NT. efhmc Apr 2012 #42
All the more reason to think they have identity issues IMHO. glinda Apr 2012 #44
I know you are trying to be politically correct Dokkie Apr 2012 #35
That is easy Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #36
Thats a cop out Dokkie Apr 2012 #38
I think that you have Tumbulu Apr 2012 #47
I have no idea where you get your talking points from Angry Dragon Apr 2012 #52
so, do you believe people should be treated differently because of their sex, ethnicity, etc? fascisthunter Apr 2012 #59
We should all be equal in the eyes of the law and if religious, in the eyes efhmc Apr 2012 #43
Exactly. fasttense Apr 2012 #7
"careful teaching and constant reminders" redqueen Apr 2012 #11
Ah, but that's what messes so many women up. redqueen Apr 2012 #9
Phyllis Schlafly. n/t 11 Bravo Apr 2012 #10
Billion of women have this degredation pounded into them from before birth, efhmc Apr 2012 #12
it's not just the catholic church. it's also fundie protestant ones. n/t RainDog Apr 2012 #34
And all the fundamentalist religions Patiod Apr 2012 #56
“What woman truly believes she is not equal to a man?” ProfessionalLeftist Apr 2012 #15
Women are stronger. If men had babies, the species would be extinct. Liberty Belle Apr 2012 #16
That's the common mantra, but apparently not true 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #26
LOLOL Skittles Apr 2012 #51
FWIW, VWolf Apr 2012 #58
try thickening your skin Skittles Apr 2012 #62
Why? Is that good for colds? n/t VWolf Apr 2012 #68
Personal anecdotes 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #60
yes, women cry for days over broken nails Skittles Apr 2012 #63
Yes all men require constant care for a cold 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #66
Ever pass a kidney stone? VWolf Apr 2012 #57
Here's one thing I don't understand meow2u3 Apr 2012 #17
I do not believe that I am equal to a man. Life has shown me that I am more likely JDPriestly Apr 2012 #18
Patriarchy has really fucked the planet up. I say we bring coalition_unwilling Apr 2012 #22
The whole time I was growing up it was an undisputed fact that men were emotionally weak Tumbulu Apr 2012 #48
“That’s why the men in the Vatican want control..." Rex Apr 2012 #21
"What woman believes she's not equal to a man?"--as said before, "Nun..." Moonwalk Apr 2012 #23
Because they believe you can only change an institution from the inside and undeterred Apr 2012 #27
They signed up for the Catholic Church and were amazed to discover . . . 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #25
This speaks clearly to the insanity of religion. gtar100 Apr 2012 #28
surely she understands that enlightenment is and was the enemy of the church RainDog Apr 2012 #33
I think *anyone* who would let the Pope tell them how to run their life Warren DeMontague Apr 2012 #37
Amazing. Just freakin' amazing. calimary Apr 2012 #39
A couple of comments from the article (WIN!) meow2u3 Apr 2012 #40
my fundie mother Duppers Apr 2012 #41
Perfect title and quote. This is getting better. Go nuns. freshwest Apr 2012 #46
Kinda depends which woman and which man doesn't it? Kablooie Apr 2012 #53
K&R ck4829 Apr 2012 #55
I think this Pope is working with extremist fundamentalists to try to bring back JDPriestly Apr 2012 #61
These women? KamaAina Apr 2012 #65
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