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186. Or maybe the voters there got even redder

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Sun Dec 7, 2014, 10:43 PM

Dec 2014

And that's more likely.

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I trust that the people saying "good riddance" to Mary Landrieu have someone in mind for 2016? [View all] brooklynite Dec 2014 OP

a head of cabbage, perhaps. At least you know where it stands on green issues. n/t Scootaloo Dec 2014 #1

Good point.... she was with us at least 60 - 70% of the time groundloop Dec 2014 #2

Actually, her track record was 95% that she voted with the president and Democrats. eom BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #26

You're showing your lack of knowledge of what you speak onenote Dec 2014 #88

If you are so sure that person is wrong, let's see a link to facts to back it up. Nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #97

Okay onenote Dec 2014 #101

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #105

Yep. Nt stevenleser Dec 2014 #119

Is there 'a significant difference'? How many of those votes are important? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #128

Doesn't matter, really. Atman Dec 2014 #3

If you check DU brer cat Dec 2014 #6

I never said I thing you are worthless. Atman Dec 2014 #157

Actually it matters a lot onenote Dec 2014 #93

Isn't a Senate seat a 6 year term? nt NutmegYankee Dec 2014 #4

Other Seat Reference? DarthDem Dec 2014 #5

So Dem strategy is to run a proven loser? Fabulous. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #60

A Democrat who wins three times in the reddest of red states is a proven loser b/c she loses once? stevenleser Dec 2014 #79

What have you done for me lately? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #87

Still waiting for your suggestion of someone with a better chance of winning? onenote Dec 2014 #92

I know that Landrieu got 18% of the white vote in the election that caused the runoff. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #96

And we still haven't seen you suggest who the Democrats could run with a better chance of winning onenote Dec 2014 #103

And you won't Andy823 Dec 2014 #147

But that number is likely to improve because ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #107

Did Landrieu run 'with' Obama? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #112

No; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #114

I think the displeasure expressed by some will wish to have some other than Cassidy in the Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #7

Exactly brooklynite, I really question the motives of anyone who is happy to see her go or saying okaawhatever Dec 2014 #8

Are we to assume that a Democrat cannot win in Louisiana? kentuck Dec 2014 #9

Pro choice, pro ACA, pro gun control = "Republican lite" brooklynite Dec 2014 #11

It is "republican lite" because those are wedge issues... Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #136

No Democrat to the left of Landrieu is going to win a Senate seat in Louisiana in the next 20 years. bornskeptic Dec 2014 #13

Well, she didn't win either... kentuck Dec 2014 #14

Perfect answer. nt Union Scribe Dec 2014 #16

"Our fastest runner didn't win; we should use a slower one" Recursion Dec 2014 #19

That sort of depends on which 'preferences' voters are voting based on. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #61

WINNER BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #23

No, it's not. She won three times. Who is your candidate who can win in on of the reddest states stevenleser Dec 2014 #82

She won three times. Please list who your acceptable LA, MS and AL candidates would be. stevenleser Dec 2014 #81

Assuming you meant MS... Recursion Dec 2014 #116

But someone to the left of her could have? treestar Dec 2014 #158

She didn't win by being a right leaning Corporate Dem did she? So can we say that no sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #84

How about we conduct an experiment??? Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #176

Well, nobody at or to the left of Landrieu can, obviously Recursion Dec 2014 #18

It's only 'obvious' to you and some of the other folks on the right end of the party. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #62

You seriously think Recursion is on the right end of the party? Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #65

That made me chuckle, in agreement. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #111

Yes. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #130

That totally illustrates why the Democratic party is rapidly becoming insignificant, Zorra Dec 2014 #169

As many have pointed out: before Clinton we lost 5 out of 6 Presidential contests Recursion Dec 2014 #177

That was then. This is now. Before Roosevelt's New Deal, we lost 7 of 9 Zorra Dec 2014 #188

You have a weird idea of insignificance. Donald Ian Rankin Dec 2014 #190

Sorry, are you actually calling me the "right end" of the Democratic party? Recursion Dec 2014 #118

From all of the things I've seen you post on DU Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #131

If that's the case treestar Dec 2014 #148

According to folks here, that (a 'real progressive') would be Mary Landrieu. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #151

Nobody called her a real progressive treestar Dec 2014 #160

Thanks for all you do to move the Democrats further to the right LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #194

Republican-lite = voting with Pres. Obama and Democrats 95% of the time? BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #27

Pretty much yes. Always been the case. nt geek tragedy Dec 2014 #124

Someone that had to be constantly cajoled into voting like a Democrat is NOT a Democrat. hobbit709 Dec 2014 #10

So what? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #110

And since LA has Open Primaries ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #113

Not following that sentence, can you clarify? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #132

I was talking about Landrieu hobbit709 Dec 2014 #121

Ah, I see. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #133

That people in LA are right wing in large numbers is an "excuse?" treestar Dec 2014 #162

Nope. I want to reach out to them. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #191

The D behind the name helps having the majority treestar Dec 2014 #161

That D isn't a help when they vote for the other side. hobbit709 Dec 2014 #167

The Republican will vote that way all the time treestar Dec 2014 #170

how the Rs vote is not relevant to the way a D votes, unless they vote with the Rs. hobbit709 Dec 2014 #171

It's relevant to the fact that we won't see any legislation treestar Dec 2014 #187

You mean Mary "I didn't vote for Obama" Landrieu? tularetom Dec 2014 #12

Unfortunately, I see only red for Louisiana for a long time. SoCalDem Dec 2014 #15

+1 I never thought it was an accident, either. merrily Dec 2014 #28

Some facts onenote Dec 2014 #109

Thanks! That's really helpful data. tblue Dec 2014 #127

I'm sure if some billionaire coughs up enough money, a candidate will be found. nt bemildred Dec 2014 #17

Riiiiiiight. Hekate Dec 2014 #20

What do you suggest? Running a more right wing Democrat than Landrieu? Who couldn't win Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2014 #21

Someone related... DAMANgoldberg Dec 2014 #22

I know right? BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #24

Steve Kornacki answered that one. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #63

I don't disagree BrotherIvan Dec 2014 #143

there were other democrats who ran besides Landrieu JI7 Dec 2014 #30

Well, the farther left Democrats who ran got about 7 votes among them Recursion Dec 2014 #46

Stupid Massachusetts. When Coakley lost to Brown, Massachusetts should have merrily Dec 2014 #108

And so MA then ran a former Republican hawk, and won Recursion Dec 2014 #122

Warren isn't to the right of Coakley, so what's your point? merrily Dec 2014 #123

I was being snarky. MA is a great state to run liberals in. Recursion Dec 2014 #125

Yet, Brown beat Coakley, so it is not all all about Massachusetts. And, by the "logic" being applied merrily Dec 2014 #126

Maybe supporting her treestar Dec 2014 #165

Sick of Conservatives. LeftOfWest Dec 2014 #25

Louisiana has an Open Primary where a candidate needs Majority to win or they go to runoff JI7 Dec 2014 #29

Because we re-elect incumbents. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #64

in the primary democrat totals were only about 45 percEnt JI7 Dec 2014 #68

Ah, ok, I see my confusion. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #73

+1 treestar Dec 2014 #149

So many Landrieu threads, so little time. merrily Dec 2014 #31

why didn't the other democrats who ran besides Landrieu do better ? JI7 Dec 2014 #32

Ask the OP. I have a feeling you'll like his answer better than you'll like mine. merrily Dec 2014 #33

it didn't really answer anything based on the actual election JI7 Dec 2014 #34

Actually, it did. Sorry you missed it. merrily Dec 2014 #35

didn't miss anything because when people had the chance to vote for a more JI7 Dec 2014 #36

Are you referring to the Green? If so, guess that must be the talking point for this 5 minutes. merrily Dec 2014 #37

no, i'm referring to other democrats who were also on the ballot JI7 Dec 2014 #38

I didn't study the election, merrily Dec 2014 #40

authentic discussion of the actual election which included more liberal democrats than landrieu JI7 Dec 2014 #45

You're only going to get dodging answers on this treestar Dec 2014 #152

LA didn't have a Green candidate, which is why I mentioned AR (which did) Recursion Dec 2014 #41

It's very late (or early) here I missed AR. merrily Dec 2014 #42

Well, the facts are against you: our only two pick-ups this cycle were... dreaded blue dogs. Recursion Dec 2014 #43

And I think the facts are against you. The more right the Party has gone, the worse it's done. merrily Dec 2014 #44

but there were candidates who were more left and they got even fewer votes JI7 Dec 2014 #47

I can only refer you to my reply 40 and the reply at the link in my reply 40 merrily Dec 2014 #48

but why would they not vote for the more liberal candidates in this case ? JI7 Dec 2014 #49

I've answered that question to you more than once. Yet, instead of addressing what I said, or merrily Dec 2014 #50

not really, you bring up ted kennedy and jimmy carter in 1980. JI7 Dec 2014 #51

Yes, really. The reference to Carter was only the end of that post and it was made as merrily Dec 2014 #52

your responses don't have anything to do with the actual election JI7 Dec 2014 #53

See Replies 40 and 48. Thanks. merrily Dec 2014 #54

It is plain logic that they lost because they were too far left or right of the voters. treestar Dec 2014 #154

Um, no, it isn't. It's merely a meme with you happen to agree. merrily Dec 2014 #163

Did they have massive warchests and near universal name recognition? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #66

whEn they have voted for people like Jindal and vitter JI7 Dec 2014 #70

I must have posted under the wrong comment. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #72

Louisiana has open primaries JI7 Dec 2014 #74

The money issue treestar Dec 2014 #155

You have to support your argument, which is wrong, due to being inherently irrational treestar Dec 2014 #153

Which "argument" of mine do you claim is inherently irrational? merrily Dec 2014 #156

I am sad. Sure.. riversedge Dec 2014 #58

It's depressing to see people on DU cheering at the loss of a Democrat. baldguy Dec 2014 #39

I don't care.. sendero Dec 2014 #55

even when those consequences include giving control of the Senate to the repubs? onenote Dec 2014 #138

LOL... sendero Dec 2014 #142

Naieve. So naieve. onenote Dec 2014 #145

No... sendero Dec 2014 #174

Economics onenote Dec 2014 #180

Rec. N/T JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #56

The folks in Louisiana well NEVER elect someone in the mold of Bernie. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #57

Good riddance to Mary Landrieu. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #59

I will not miss her! B Calm Dec 2014 #67

I can't believe there is only 1 person who can win as a Democrat in the entire state of Louisiana. Vinca Dec 2014 #69

most people in the state support the pipeline JI7 Dec 2014 #71

Then it appears they are in for a huge disappointment. Vinca Dec 2014 #77

Why is there such a disconnect? Do you think tea partiers can win statewide races in NY, MA or CA? stevenleser Dec 2014 #85

I have no idea, but a Democrat should try it once just for the heck of it. Vinca Dec 2014 #117

It's been tried MANY times. You don't hear about it because stevenleser Dec 2014 #120

Do you think Obama was considered GOP-lite in 2008? onenote Dec 2014 #146

I just said the same thing in another thread Reter Dec 2014 #181

Why yes I do. Clean Crab Puffie or her brother Shrimpie Oilfree. lonestarnot Dec 2014 #75

Anyone cheering the defeat of the Democrat in this race should be banned from DU...nt SidDithers Dec 2014 #76

Hey, Sid: you're doing your internal fantasy monologue aloud again. DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2014 #78

+1 treestar Dec 2014 #166

What good will 2016 do? Cassidy will be the Senator until MineralMan Dec 2014 #80

David Vitter's seat is up in 2016. former9thward Dec 2014 #137

Landrieu lost, so why exactly are you lecturing people about electability? /nt Marr Dec 2014 #83

Because Landrieu won three statewide races in LA. Do you who hate her have an alternative who can do stevenleser Dec 2014 #86

She loses today. Marr Dec 2014 #91

I just don't see how she comes back Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #106

Exactly. Kermitt Gribble Dec 2014 #144

Why do people continue to lecture that voters will vote for a "real progressive" treestar Dec 2014 #168

I couldn't tell you, since I didn't do that. Landrieu lost, period. Marr Dec 2014 #179

Or maybe the voters there got even redder treestar Dec 2014 #186

You're saying we need someone to Landrieu's right in Louisiana? /nt Marr Dec 2014 #189

that seat is now out of play for Democrats for at least 3 senate cycles, maybe more wyldwolf Dec 2014 #89

Exactly, hooray, we won!!! Erm, won what exactly?!?! stevenleser Dec 2014 #94

They did? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #129

Love how it's the BOG saying this.... beerandjesus Dec 2014 #192

Democrats stood on principle. LondonReign2 Dec 2014 #195

Don't hate me Tsiyu Dec 2014 #90

I met her once. At a salon I attended. Puglover Dec 2014 #98

lol Marr Dec 2014 #99

Ayup. Puglover Dec 2014 #100

lol nt m-lekktor Dec 2014 #102

I C wut U Tsiyu Dec 2014 #173

And EVERYBODY was there. pa28 Dec 2014 #183

The point: Should every congress person running put a bill into congress just to get elected. One jwirr Dec 2014 #95

Yeah if only she would have appealed to her blue color base and not went GOP vote hunting. Rex Dec 2014 #104

A Belgian Waffle. Autumn Dec 2014 #115

At least a Belgian Waffle would do no harm. pa28 Dec 2014 #141

One size doesn't fit all. kentuck Dec 2014 #134

Mary Landrieu democratic base stayed home on election day for a reason. They didn't see B Calm Dec 2014 #135

The Democratic "base" in Louisiana is too small to elect anyone on its own onenote Dec 2014 #140

She was reelected 3 times. If the democratic base B Calm Dec 2014 #178

Giving up is always a good strategy treestar Dec 2014 #150

Not saying "good riddance", but I've been conviced by the constant repetition of the Zorra Dec 2014 #139

Start with the progressive challenging her in 2008 that DNC sabotaged on point Dec 2014 #159

Yep Aerows Dec 2014 #164

Vote D no matter what ...is so (message hidden by jury decision). L0oniX Dec 2014 #172

Landrieu had to be dragged to the table for Democrats. Zen Democrat Dec 2014 #175

More importantly, the La. Democratic party.. Feron Dec 2014 #182

Last I checked her seat doesn't come up for re-election in 6 years LynneSin Dec 2014 #184

You know I had to think about this for 20 minutes and honestly - I AM PISSED LynneSin Dec 2014 #185

My perpetual anger does not allow me to see past the nose on my face. NCTraveler Dec 2014 #193