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MADem

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52. Of course he finished his senatorial term, he walked away from an

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 12:32 PM

Nov 2014

INCUMBENCY. That wasn't a very cool thing to do, it is suggestive of an unserious approach. And he did say he was TIRED of politics--and not in the "plain talk, straight shooting" way--in the "I wanna do something else" way.

You know what? Here's the difference between you and me. I don't call you names (oooooooooh......desperate) or suggest motives (waaaaaaah....attacks) like you're doing (fwiw that is the sign of a "desperate" failed argument). I haven't said a single thing about this guy that isn't the Stone Cold Truth.

And here's the other difference--assuming lightning strikes and he gets through the vetting--and There Will Be Vetting--I will Hold My Nose And Vote For Him. I don't see all the "Hillary Haters" making that pledge--and she has no history of sexism and is to the LEFT of him on many issues, including that pesky GUN thing and that somewhat important ENVIRONMENTAL thing.

But hey--you go on with your bad self, and your own "ugly talk," and I'll just give your opinions the merit I feel they deserve.

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Jim Webb [View all] clydefrand Nov 2014 OP

Webb would be fine by me Zambero Nov 2014 #1

Way down yonder in the land of cotton... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #2

Um, what? cwydro Nov 2014 #147

Webb is a big fan of the Confederacy wyldwolf Nov 2014 #148

Jim "I wed three wives" Webb? MADem Nov 2014 #3

Who cares how many wives he had... RichGirl Nov 2014 #10

It's not a question of morality at all, it's more down to temperance and judgment and impulsivity. MADem Nov 2014 #12

It doesn't always come down to temperance. I've been married 3 times and I am still Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #14

Do you quit every important job you've ever held? MADem Nov 2014 #15

Did he quit his marriages? Only Kreskin knows. Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #19

He's talked about it--he's a walker. His wives don't get too mad because he is generous. MADem Nov 2014 #20

His wives don't get too mad, eh? So his ex-wives are gold diggers, eh? Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #22

No, they're not gold diggers. He just didn't stiff them. Many do, you know. MADem Nov 2014 #25

I'm not a fan of Webb. Never have, never will be. I just find this "o-o-o-o-o-o-oh" 3 marriage thing Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #27

Quick, no googling--name every President that has been married three times. MADem Nov 2014 #29

I can name one that had many 'bimbo eruptions' LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #30

Well, you've never been a fan of the Clintons, so that is no surprise. nt MADem Nov 2014 #32

Ah, I see. If I were a fan of the Clintons, bimbo eruptions LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #45

I never said that two wrongs make a right--I've just seen your MADem Nov 2014 #60

I'd say she had "bimbo problems" PassingFair Nov 2014 #136

Wow, real classy. nt MADem Nov 2014 #137

Proud are you? Getting a head start of smearing a Democratic candidate before the GOP Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #34

Why are you making such nasty accusations? Let's break your business down. MADem Nov 2014 #35

Sounds like Webb-Gingrich would be a fun general election. nt rogerashton Nov 2014 #107

Women Can't Fight vs. Infections in the Foxhole! MADem Nov 2014 #111

It would make the National Enquirer very, very happy indeed. MADem Nov 2014 #165

Sorry, that's just plain ugly talk davidpdx Nov 2014 #47

Oh, he did finish his term? well well, LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #48

Check how long he stayed as SECNAV--that was barely a whisp of a full term. MADem Nov 2014 #54

Whether there is fruit or not, the GOP will invent it. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #61

They don't HAVE to invent it. It's there. MADem Nov 2014 #69

I think you leading off with the 3 marriage thing put me off. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #66

I have not said a single thing about him that wasn't stone-cold truth. MADem Nov 2014 #70

Of course he finished his senatorial term, he walked away from an MADem Nov 2014 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author davidpdx Nov 2014 #122

What "actions?" MADem Nov 2014 #123

Quits 2 federal slots = quit every important job???? Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #65

If you can't bother to read the full conversation (and the links) MADem Nov 2014 #71

Straw men, and insinuating disparaging motives Cosmic Kitten Nov 2014 #94

That phrase "straw men" does not mean what you think it means. MADem Nov 2014 #116

You lost your credibility... RichGirl Nov 2014 #112

They both quit, didn't they? MADem Nov 2014 #114

Petraeus, Ricardo Sanchez and Stanley MacChrystal would each last about 5 minutes KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #17

They're all toast, anyway. Retired x 3. There's a new crew in town. MADem Nov 2014 #21

You should put 'retired' in quotation marks! :) - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #49

Heheh!!! nt MADem Nov 2014 #50

Voters might. merrily Nov 2014 #59

I've had two husbands, I'm tired of judging people based on their marriage habits. redstatebluegirl Nov 2014 #55

Now, your challenge is to convince the rest of America to think the way you do. MADem Nov 2014 #58

That's a good point JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #77

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #130

How many times has that guy been married? MADem Nov 2014 #135

...cmon. You know what I'm sayin'. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #138

I think you're wrong. Voters not only care about how often people have been married, but to WHOM MADem Nov 2014 #139

I disagree. I don't think it will materially matter at all. Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #140

But Jon Edwards IMPLODED for messin' around. MADem Nov 2014 #143

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #144

If you recall--and I think you're misremembering--Clinton's people did a very good job of pushing MADem Nov 2014 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Nov 2014 #150

I completely take your point about paradigm-breakers. MADem Nov 2014 #152

Saint Ronnie was remarried AND conceived a child out of wedlock Major Nikon Nov 2014 #155

And Webb didn't do likewise? (Hint: Oh yes he DID.) MADem Nov 2014 #156

Honestly I don't really care that much about politicians' private lives Major Nikon Nov 2014 #157

People DO are about politicians' (and movie stars', and TV celebrities' and other assorted famous- MADem Nov 2014 #158

Clinton also had higher approval ratings than Saint Ronnie ever got DURING the impeachment Major Nikon Nov 2014 #159

Everyone seems to forget how great the economy was during the Clinton years. MADem Nov 2014 #160

Al Gore running from Clinton is one big reason why he wasn't president Major Nikon Nov 2014 #163

I think the Supreme Court has to take that blame. MADem Nov 2014 #164

Precisely how many marriages may one have before they are ethically disqualified? LanternWaste Nov 2014 #82

We have to ask the GOP, afterall they pull the strings and make all the rules LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #84

As many as they want, so long as they are "good Christian women." MADem Nov 2014 #124

Was he headed to St. Ives? KamaAina Nov 2014 #100

He needs four more to get there! nt MADem Nov 2014 #125

I was thinking about that, too. I've met two of his wives. DFW Nov 2014 #127

Yes, I saw that legendary temper once. MADem Nov 2014 #129

I understand, and I'll even help with some motivation. DFW Nov 2014 #131

Really! Talk about Actions Have Consequences, writ large!!! MADem Nov 2014 #134

Or "I voted for war a clearly trumped-up war" Hillary? tabasco Nov 2014 #141

You might want to acquaint yourself with his full resume before you jump in with both feet. MADem Nov 2014 #142

Had to go back to 1989 to find something? Rex Nov 2014 #145

Seriously? That's your comment? That's your take away from all this conversation? MADem Nov 2014 #153

Here's what he told the WSJ 8 days after he tipped control of the Senate to Democrats in 2006: Faryn Balyncd Nov 2014 #4

I'd like to see that email if you wouldn't mind posting it. aikoaiko Nov 2014 #5

Here's the video, better still MADem Nov 2014 #6

I sent him a bit of money back in 2006, and.... NCarolinawoman Nov 2014 #7

Guy who quit the Senate after 1 term because he didn't like politics? brooklynite Nov 2014 #8

He doesn't like politics... RichGirl Nov 2014 #11

Going after the Presidency is a game of winning too. And the game is to win not once, but twice. MADem Nov 2014 #16

I was beginning to think I was the only person here who was aware of the guy's resume... nt MADem Nov 2014 #13

How does one "quit" if their term is up? NCTraveler Nov 2014 #67

He chose not to run for re-election... brooklynite Nov 2014 #73

Just wanted to clear it up that he didn't quit as is being said. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2014 #74

He quit his cabinet post. MADem Nov 2014 #120

He looks better than Hillary on foreign policy, economic policy, criminal justice. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #9

But he's had three wives! LordGlenconner Nov 2014 #18

And the NRA loves him. MADem Nov 2014 #23

I think I'll watch and see how his bid goes. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #24

I met the guy when he was SECNAV oh so briefly. Nice smear of me, there, though. MADem Nov 2014 #26

I responded to your Fox News-style list of talking points. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #83

Way to double down on the insults! Now, my facts--and they are facts-- MADem Nov 2014 #113

I'm quick with research on Jim Webb.. you going to accuse me like you accused MADem of being Cha Nov 2014 #38

You're off the mark. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #80

You're off the mark. Cha Nov 2014 #110

So, what you're saying is that the GOP isn't going to try to get MADem Nov 2014 #118

"Jim Webb dead wrong on global warming pollution" from 2011.. but, what else do we have to go on? Cha Nov 2014 #37

He appealed to the people of Virginia, because they liked those views. MADem Nov 2014 #40

Ah yes, Virginia politics.. they had the creepy Bob greedy McDonnell and now Terry McAuliffe is Cha Nov 2014 #43

Same story for Grimes then? All politics is local so LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #46

Grimes' problem was not that she was an Obama MADem Nov 2014 #64

I don't know if Webb would have won that race if it had not been merrily Nov 2014 #62

He probably would not have. Allen had money and clout. MADem Nov 2014 #72

Your marriage critique sounds like something from the Moral Majority circa 1982 LordGlenconner Nov 2014 #51

Reading not your strong suit, is that it? MADem Nov 2014 #56

I must have been bored LordGlenconner Nov 2014 #104

NRA loves him I'm not with him... uponit7771 Nov 2014 #161

He has an "A" rating with them. nt MADem Nov 2014 #162

How many did Reagan have? KamaAina Nov 2014 #102

Or Newt Gingrich, or John McCain, for that matter. nt Hekate Nov 2014 #108

Two. And his first wife, the redoubtable Jane Wyman, would answer MADem Nov 2014 #126

I despise him pamela Nov 2014 #28

Holy shit, I remember those days. Brings to mind a story!!!!! MADem Nov 2014 #31

That turns me off, too loyalsister Nov 2014 #33

Warren's not running. The only one in the Senate now who MADem Nov 2014 #36

the worst Democrat is better than the best Republican loyalsister Nov 2014 #41

Yeah--I wish I'd been a fly on the wall at that Professional MADem Nov 2014 #42

I wonder who is telling him he can actually be successful loyalsister Nov 2014 #44

You know, he worked well with Clinton--I think she helped MADem Nov 2014 #75

I understand how politics works loyalsister Nov 2014 #81

If he is covering her right flank, he's getting behind HER... MADem Nov 2014 #117

Wow! Not good. mahalo, pamela Cha Nov 2014 #39

It's interesting to me how many DUers will not even look up a politician's wiki before deciding merrily Nov 2014 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Peregrine Took Nov 2014 #76

Maybe a JIM WEBB group should be added to the "Democrats" topic?????????? HereSince1628 Nov 2014 #53

I posted this on another thread about Webb: merrily Nov 2014 #57

I've read one of his non-fic books, have heard him be interviewed... Hekate Nov 2014 #68

calling out the HRC dogs? RedstDem Nov 2014 #78

After over 80 replies, I guess most of the 'HRC dogs' are sitting back and laughing wyldwolf Nov 2014 #79

who let the dogs out... RedstDem Nov 2014 #85

Laugh all you like but Webb did not think Iraq was a good idea, and Hillary did. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #86

Webb wasn't in the senate when the vote was taken. And besides... wyldwolf Nov 2014 #87

Wanna play? Okay. Doug Coe and The Fellowship: LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #88

I'd love to play wyldwolf Nov 2014 #95

I was mostly wondering how someone could speak so highly of a sick soul like Coe's. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #97

the same way Ted Kennedy, Gore and others did? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #98

If no association exists, how could she speak so highly of him? LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #99

I speak highly of my plumber. So why don't you prove this phantom association? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #103

There is no association of consequence LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #105

do you really think you just made a valid point? wyldwolf Nov 2014 #106

hyperbole much? RedstDem Nov 2014 #89

I don't run toward Hills, I run the opposite direction. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #90

Jim Webb is a confederate sympathizer. No hyperbole here. wyldwolf Nov 2014 #96

well that clearly makes him a rebel RedstDem Nov 2014 #151

Except for the obvious gender, how is this war college vet an improvement over Hillary? librechik Nov 2014 #91

Foreign policy, economic policy, criminal justice reform? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #109

If we're going with another TBF Nov 2014 #92

I will listen to what he has to say.. kentuck Nov 2014 #93

As far as I can tell, Webb's presence in the race serves two purposes KamaAina Nov 2014 #101

I was initially impressed with the guy Horse with no Name Nov 2014 #115

I have to wonder if he's not playing a role. MADem Nov 2014 #121

okay, he would be more restained on foreign policy issues - perhaps than Hillary - that I like Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #119

You really think that? Don't forget, he's an old Cold Warrior who QUIT MADem Nov 2014 #128

he did oppose the U.S. entry into both the Gulf War of 1992 and the invasion of Iraq in 2003. He Douglas Carpenter Nov 2014 #132

He does seem to be averse to getting mired in the middle east. MADem Nov 2014 #133

Careful, scared little rabbits on DU don't like democracy very much. Rex Nov 2014 #146

There you go again, with the nasty commentary. Most people here are having a CIVIL and spirited MADem Nov 2014 #154

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