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joshcryer

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3. The irony is that so called socialists, progressives, support the Rand CT.

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Mon Aug 25, 2014, 05:55 PM

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This is Leftist [View all] BainsBane Aug 2014 OP

People saying this will sell everything else out because he claims to be anti-war. stevenleser Aug 2014 #1

They support the ones they care about BainsBane Aug 2014 #6

Regardless of whether some traditionally Dem voters will fall for Paul's crap .... Scuba Aug 2014 #10

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #26

On a few topics, he is further left than HRC. Half-Century Man Aug 2014 #34

He calls for domestic use of drones AgingAmerican Aug 2014 #35

Love the John Birch Society site you linked to. wyldwolf Aug 2014 #64

You link to the racist John 'Birch society BainsBane Aug 2014 #67

K&R nt Zorra Aug 2014 #2

The irony is that so called socialists, progressives, support the Rand CT. joshcryer Aug 2014 #3

What's the 'Rand CT?' leftstreet Aug 2014 #4

See post 12. joshcryer Aug 2014 #14

No they don't BainsBane Aug 2014 #5

There is another element in this debate that I have not formulated a reply to. I agree with the OP freshwest Aug 2014 #11

I know that. joshcryer Aug 2014 #13

Oh, I see BainsBane Aug 2014 #16

Sorry, on phone so type short. joshcryer Aug 2014 #17

Pretty hard to picture a Marxist supporting either of them betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #7

Actually you are wrong BainsBane Aug 2014 #8

He pushes it left on those issues where he can draw left leaning voters betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #9

Yes, I see you voted for that option BainsBane Aug 2014 #15

Imperialism isn't leftwing either betterdemsonly Aug 2014 #21

Good post. nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author BainsBane Aug 2014 #33

Look what Paul says about the economy and taxes BainsBane Aug 2014 #31

Social Democrats are near the center of the political spectrum in much of the world BainsBane Aug 2014 #32

Not him, the Rand conspiracy that the left would vote for him. joshcryer Aug 2014 #12

Now why would you make that up? Are you trying to disparage socialists and rhett o rick Aug 2014 #50

I didn't say that. joshcryer Aug 2014 #53

What people actually write is entirely irrelevant BainsBane Aug 2014 #62

And yet the BOGers and DINOs at DU insist that they're the same Doctor_J Aug 2014 #18

Who are the same? BainsBane Aug 2014 #25

Why are the PUMAs convinced that liberals are going to vote for Rand Paul? Doctor_J Aug 2014 #27

It's a straw man argument. No one on the left I know will give the Paul's a second rhett o rick Aug 2014 #29

+1, Well said. Marr Aug 2014 #48

All straw, like the poster at the top of the thread BainsBane Aug 2014 #68

"Funny how the OPs that you all objet to are the ones critical of Paul, not the ones praising him". Marr Aug 2014 #71

The mindless fixation on Hillary Clinton ais yours BainsBane Aug 2014 #74

This thread is not about Clinton BainsBane Aug 2014 #60

I've never said I hate Ms. Clinton, but I think the 2016 election will make or break this country. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #86

I can't believe you focus entirely on the fortunes of oligarchs BainsBane Aug 2014 #106

This is the second time you have referred to Marxist analysis as centrist BainsBane Aug 2014 #66

Did you see the game changer OP? BainsBane Aug 2014 #58

Yeah, because a thread about capital, social relations of production, and neoliberalism BainsBane Aug 2014 #61

I just served on a jury where this was the alert message BainsBane Aug 2014 #65

The RP conversation on this site is vain and fruitless. BKH70041 Aug 2014 #19

That isn't what they are doing BainsBane Aug 2014 #22

It's in vain. BKH70041 Aug 2014 #24

K&R redqueen Aug 2014 #20

And He Does Not Even Get 'Wealth Of Nations' Right, Ma'am The Magistrate Aug 2014 #23

I dislike both models 3rdwaydem Aug 2014 #30

this is america. Adam051188 Aug 2014 #36

What is your point? BainsBane Aug 2014 #37

left wing politics is viewed as a national security threat here. Adam051188 Aug 2014 #73

So you thought you'd' reaffirm that in this thead? BainsBane Aug 2014 #76

it's highly relevant Adam051188 Aug 2014 #92

I saw your post extolling the virtues of Ron Paul BainsBane Aug 2014 #97

i saw your post extolling the virtues of SATAN!!! Adam051188 Aug 2014 #102

I'm not sure what you're getting at here......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2014 #38

^ This - TBF Aug 2014 #39

We need more anti-war anti-corporatist populist lovemydog Aug 2014 #40

Clinton isn't "pro-war." joshcryer Aug 2014 #41

Of course she's pro-war......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2014 #44

In that vein, sure. joshcryer Aug 2014 #46

Who isn't? BainsBane Aug 2014 #63

There are people arguing that Rand Paul would move the Democratic party to the left BainsBane Aug 2014 #56

Libertarianism was invented to sucker impressionable youth into corporate Conservatives. ErikJ Aug 2014 #42

Yep, and now they are suckering in BainsBane Aug 2014 #43

Rand Paul doesn't understand Adam Smith, and has possibly never read him: Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #45

Smith's concerns were about mercantilism BainsBane Aug 2014 #47

Please cite a post from a liberal on this site who is advocating for a Rand Paul presidency. Marr Aug 2014 #49

Look at the poll about Rand Paul BainsBane Aug 2014 #51

Well then start another goddamned poll that includes "pushing the party to Purveyor Aug 2014 #52

I posted the poll I wanted, thanks BainsBane Aug 2014 #55

Oh, I read most of it. Marr Aug 2014 #54

"You seem to believe it's impossible to be to Hillary Clinton's left on any issue." BainsBane Aug 2014 #57

OK, I think I'm beginning to see where you're coming from.......... socialist_n_TN Aug 2014 #69

And those positions don't in any way make up for the fact that he is a right wing piece of shit BainsBane Aug 2014 #77

Actually, I'm very interested in those subjects. Marr Aug 2014 #72

"You've told me that isn't the case" BainsBane Aug 2014 #75

Why does what I tell you make any difference? Marr Aug 2014 #80

"I told you your characterization of my position was inaccurate" BainsBane Aug 2014 #83

"...time and time again accuse me of promoting Hillary Clinton". Marr Aug 2014 #96

She's not here to discuss, Marr. sibelian Aug 2014 #107

Great posts throughout this thread. woo me with science Aug 2014 #78

Thanks :D Marr Aug 2014 #79

Ah yes BainsBane Aug 2014 #81

Not everything can be put into neat little boxes. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2014 #59

Rand Paul is tailoring some of his rhetoric to the simpletons on the left. NCTraveler Aug 2014 #70

Simpletons is right BainsBane Aug 2014 #84

Alert results: tammywammy Aug 2014 #98

That's not even a real effort BainsBane Aug 2014 #99

It was so ridiculous, I'm glad it was 7-0. n/t tammywammy Aug 2014 #100

I am a democratic socialist hifiguy Aug 2014 #82

You have a picture of Marx on your avatar BainsBane Aug 2014 #85

I believe Marx's descriptions of the inevitability of capitalism's systemic failure hifiguy Aug 2014 #87

I dont disagree with that BainsBane Aug 2014 #88

I know, but I am not ready to renounce non-violence. hifiguy Aug 2014 #89

That has noting to do with it BainsBane Aug 2014 #91

You are correct, especially in terms of the way US politics have been hifiguy Aug 2014 #93

I'm all for working to get more progressive Democrats BainsBane Aug 2014 #94

I am definitely with you on that! hifiguy Aug 2014 #95

"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. panader0 Aug 2014 #90

Rand Paul is criticizing both parties FROM THE RIGHT, people! YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #101

Exactly BainsBane Aug 2014 #103

Those who sincerely wish to see a leftist alternative to the Democratic Party *as is* YoungDemCA Aug 2014 #104

Work for change? BainsBane Aug 2014 #105