Palestinians Have a Right to Defend Themselves!

[TheKentuckian]

306. They were angry in the first place because Israel is there and that is not negotiable so what now?

There is no moving forward until that is accepted and nothing to negotiate which brings us to the present circumstances and not coincidentally the current reactionary government in Israel because all hand wringing aside other approaches were way less effective in keeping Israelis safe and under less immediate threat.

The cycle is vicious and can only be broken with some buy in from those who have the most to gain and the ante is truly accepting the Jewish State is going to be there and will be left in peace in exchange they get the same.
A peace can only be negotiated from there and can only be maintained if stuck to.

So, I think your big ONLY is dubious, at best. It seems to me there were no shortage of attacks when there was freedom and opportunity. Seems like war was on the doorstep as soon as they had stepped in it too.
I think there is some Pollyanna in your analysis of the situation which puts too little stock in that a none too tiny portion are not as easily appeased as we would like to think. Far from all for sure, probably most people feel as described but we probably also have to accept in our calculus that it is a fairly significant, widespread and fervent percentage that is "death to Israel" without conditions and as can be seen when we pull back our scope a bit that in the area there are no few that are pretty fucking serious about their little sect and will murder any who don't agree and that is driving a lot of the I/P situation just in the background.

No, even if a wand could be passed over the Palestine situation, peace and safety are only enforced at gunpoint, it's a tough neighborhood with people in it with a deep cultural memory that they take way more seriously than most of us can relate to.

No Sabrina, it is not at all about present conditions nor self determination (the next state of Palestine will be the first), no doubt both are legitimate stress points but they are only part of the story no matter how tight and compelling it makes a narrative to pretend it is so.