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In reply to the discussion: Palestinians Have a Right to Defend Themselves! [View all]TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)when allowed free passage into Israel. Did the many, many episodes of terrorism go down the memory hole? What do you think the reaction is going to be?
They should be free to go though but Egypt has closed it's border and forced many to be refugees over the years in the first place to exacerbate exactly this tension as has Jordan and statistically swamp the Jewish population.
A plan that dictates returning to conditions of 10, 20, or 30 years ago is not going to be attractive to the population at all probably because it is irrational and takes on significant risks, real life and death downside, and psychological challenges with no reward.
Plus, it isn't just grudge holding, the same folks will tell you to your face that they will continue to drive the Jews out and they are joking and would seem super unlikely to change their minds any time that can be foreseen based on the often far worse internal sectarian violence which is condemned but with orders of magnitude less ire even our own heinous acts are looked at with less intensity of emotion, it seems to me. Repudiated? Absolutely but the visceral level is several notches down for all other players and I find it curious and it only reinforces my belief in Zion.
There is something seething below the surface of a considerable portion of humanity that has reared it's head and grown monstrous consistently throughout recorded history, the Holocaust just being the latest and greatest. I had a great grandfather who had to get out of Russia a generation or so before and it isn't just religion either, a Jewish can be an atheist or even Christian and will generally catch the same persecutions.
I don't know what the deal is but as far as I'm concerned humanity is on a 5 or 10 thousand year probation, at gunpoint if necessary.
Never again to face genocide, to be conquered, or dispersed and to always have a home of last resort is the only way forward for these people because we cannot be trusted with them and I do not blame them a bit for doing whatever it takes to makes sure and in fact believe it is our duty as restitution to help them.
Hell, I can even understand not wanting the next Islamic Republic on the doorstep but I am not unsympathetic to the Palestinians and if they wish to form a nation of their own and live in peace then it is our (the world) and Israel's duty to help them to do so but they will have to accept Israel and they never have before and there will likely still be no peace and the killing in result will be massive, making this last go around look like the age of Aquarius but it must be attempted because there is always a chance even of it is slim.