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Dr Hobbitstein

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34. No, your arguments are the same.

Wed Jun 25, 2014, 03:13 PM

Jun 2014

You all cite discredited studies.
You claim that all the other science behind it is a conspiracy.
You call anyone who argues contrary a shill of said industry.

Seems to me, you're all the same.

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Seralini Redux: Roundup-Ready GMO Maize Causes Serious Health Damage [View all] appal_jack Jun 2014 OP

Defamation fail! KT2000 Jun 2014 #1

Interesting article. nt ZombieHorde Jun 2014 #2

I have not eaten corn or corn products since I first heard of this report, because I figured djean111 Jun 2014 #3

no-- the rapid push back was because it's a bogus study, (now) published in a fake journal.... mike_c Jun 2014 #7

For some reason, science is lost on some people... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #16

...and now the rapid full-bore corporate propaganda spewback is because... Chiron Jun 2014 #25

Well-said, Chiron. nt. appal_jack Jun 2014 #51

Thanks Chiron and WhiteTara Jun 2014 #57

ya'll are welcome Chiron Jun 2014 #70

No one likes the thought that WhiteTara Jun 2014 #73

Thank you for this crucial background information on the validity of the Seralini study Crowquette Jun 2014 #71

ROFL... SidDithers Jun 2014 #72

Thanks for the welcome Crowquette Jun 2014 #74

this is the climate change denial and chem-trails FUD of the left.... mike_c Jun 2014 #76

LOL-- it's a self pay-to-publish online "junk journal" with an impact factor of zero.... mike_c Jun 2014 #4

Questioning the messenger is fine, but tiny & obscure journals have their place. appal_jack Jun 2014 #17

Exactly. blackspade Jun 2014 #22

"Big science"? alp227 Jun 2014 #28

This thread is about GMO's. appal_jack Jun 2014 #40

well said, appal jack. Cha Jun 2014 #91

Tiny PAY TO PLAY journals Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #32

Have you priced a subscription to any elsevier journals lately? appal_jack Jun 2014 #65

this is a FAKE journal, not just a small press.... mike_c Jun 2014 #75

Yup, junk science being defended by woo peddlers... SidDithers Jun 2014 #67

Suck it - Monsanto!! lark Jun 2014 #5

Sorry. Republishing an already-retracted study doesn't make it valid. alp227 Jun 2014 #6

And having the original study 'retracted' by a mystery panel of corporate shills does not Chiron Jun 2014 #35

Cue up the Monsanto shills blackspade Jun 2014 #8

Yep. Already happened. And I still won't buy anything with corn in it for my family. djean111 Jun 2014 #9

+1 blackspade Jun 2014 #14

Same here. No corn, no wheat. GliderGuider Jun 2014 #19

I don't buy anything with corn in it either arikara Jun 2014 #11

I buy GM free as much as I am able. blackspade Jun 2014 #13

Corporate infestation of the food chain Crowquette Jun 2014 #89

Yes, learning how to be objective Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #15

All corn is not GM. blackspade Jun 2014 #18

Actually, it IS the same. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #26

You obviously know little about the origin of corn then. blackspade Jun 2014 #39

Hahaha... Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #42

woo, that childish term again..... blackspade Jun 2014 #48

As soon as I see that stupid woo term arikara Jun 2014 #86

This is funny. HuckleB Sep 2015 #96

Do you really use round up in your yard? arikara Jun 2014 #85

Willful obfuscation much? appal_jack Jun 2014 #21

They just ignore being called on their bullshit about selective breeding. djean111 Jun 2014 #23

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #30

Oh my - jackass? Hit a nerve, did we? djean111 Jun 2014 #36

No, just calling it like I see it. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #38

You know, eventually we will get GMO labeling. Why waste your precious time. djean111 Jun 2014 #41

YAY! And we can be like the ignorant courts in Europe Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #45

only monsato science is the real science wisechoice Jun 2014 #62

Post removed Post removed Jun 2014 #92

You know Aerows Jun 2014 #58

Is the DNA of the resultant corn the same as the original corn? Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #27

Your lack of understanding about agricultural science is on glowing display. blackspade Jun 2014 #43

Must suck for you if all the 'grown-ups' nearby are this clueless. appal_jack Jun 2014 #50

So, to you, genetic modification can ONLY happen in a lab? Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #53

That is the very definition of "Genetically modified" MohRokTah Jun 2014 #55

You are my hero of today BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #56

Cheers, Brother. appal_jack Jun 2014 #64

Bullshit propaganda with no relation to the truth. eom MohRokTah Jun 2014 #54

You say Monsanto shills, I say followers of legitimate science. alp227 Jun 2014 #31

Fail. blackspade Jun 2014 #49

! Crowquette Jun 2014 #95

you have phobia wisechoice Jun 2014 #63

No I don't. I care about science. alp227 Jun 2014 #69

Really. It's like they have a personal stake in the proliferation of Roundup. Cha Jun 2014 #90

Intriguing. I wasn't aware that anyone endorsed consumption of Roundup. Orrex Jun 2014 #10

Welcome down the rabbit-hole, Orrex. appal_jack Jun 2014 #94

So, self publishing a retracted bullshit study that was peer-reviewed and deemed to be bogus Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #12

Lumping the Anti-GM movement with blackspade Jun 2014 #20

Oh, they would lump us in with birthers , and still might, since the usual shite is being dismissed. djean111 Jun 2014 #24

Why is it the largest organic producers and retailers are AGAINST GMO labelling? Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #37

And how does the "free market" know what "genetically modified" even means? alp227 Jun 2014 #33

A sham how? blackspade Jun 2014 #47

No, your arguments are the same. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2014 #34

Then you have no clear understanding of the issue. blackspade Jun 2014 #46

It's completely valid. They use many of the same techniques... SidDithers Jun 2014 #78

Your entitled to your opinion. blackspade Jun 2014 #80

Hello? Do you really believe this parroted anti-GMO propaganda? HuckleB Sep 2015 #97

"Peer review" doesn't matter when your corporate handlers are instructing you to make "woo" posts... villager Jun 2014 #29

People need to study the history of how the original Seralini study was anonymously undermined Chiron Jun 2014 #44

... SidDithers Jun 2014 #66

Well, I was very happy to see some Non-GMO Jolly Time popcorn in the grocery store! factsarenotfair Jun 2014 #52

And -------did it cost four times as much? n/t djean111 Jun 2014 #59

Well, honestly, I didn't even compare prices because I was so happy to see it. factsarenotfair Jun 2014 #60

Although I do refuse to eat GMO food, there are aspects to this study which I question. MohRokTah Jun 2014 #61

Do you live somewhere that requires labeling? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #77

Seralini's study was junk science that was properly retracted by Food and Chemical Toxicology... SidDithers Jun 2014 #68

'Junk science' seems a bit harsh. From the retraction statement - Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2014 #79

I think the editors were being kind... SidDithers Jun 2014 #81

we have to use an article wisechoice Jun 2014 #83

You can use whatever article you want ... SidDithers Jun 2014 #84

And your sources are shit wisechoice Jun 2014 #87

Sure they are... SidDithers Jun 2014 #88

It's actually far too kind. HuckleB Sep 2015 #98

The original retraction reeks of corporate corruption Crowquette Jun 2014 #82

The corrupt critics of the Seralini study and their Pervert Science Crowquette Jun 2014 #93