All three Democratic presidential losses in the Eighties were caused by centrism.

[Ken Burch]

148. I don't trash anyone. I just speak out on the issues.

And we know more about people link Bill and HRC and other figures than wedid about what, say, FDR was doing at the time he was doing it(the deportation of those Mexicans wasn't common knowledge at the time, for example, and there wasn't much to do about the devil's bargain with the segregationists). Had I lived in FDR's time, I'd have done all I could to oppose the bad things he did(incuding his tragic decision to cutHenry Wallace loose in 1944) whilestill campaigning for his re-election.

But as time passes, the standards need to be raised. There was no excuse for a Democratic candidate, in the last decade of the twentieth century, to run AGAINST social spending, to denounce the poor as morally inferior, or to force through a right-wing trade deal that two-thirds of the people opposed in every poll of the decade.

There was no excuse for a candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, in the first decade of THIS century, to be a proud supporter of the Iraq War, to be willing to openly consider a military strike on Iran that would achieve nothing and kill thousands of innocent people, or to continue to back trade deals that exist solely for the good of the .001%.

(and yes, a lot can be said about the person who beat that candidate for the nomination, and if you've read my posts I've said a
fair amount).

None of this is trashing on a personal level-It's about the issues of theday and the future of this party and the country. I don't think HRC is evil...just wrong on a lot of things. More than anything, I'm convinced that her militarism and her pro-corporate stand on economics will make it impossible for her to be a progressive, inclusive president. And I believe nominating HRC means we'd never pick anyone in the future who wasn't her exact clone on the issues. Is it wrong to NOT want this party to be a political and intellectual dead zone? Is it wrong to want discussion and principles to still go on here?

To me, going back to the Nineties means the death of all hope.