Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Nine

(1,741 posts)
78. Based on post #4, this probably isn't a sincere thread.
Tue May 13, 2014, 09:41 AM
May 2014

How would a gun have helped in the original situation? What you need is a more secure perimeter. A gun doesn't protect your home when you're away. It doesn't protect your home when you're asleep. It doesn't protect your home when you're at home and awake but in another room and you don't hear someone entering. I always say that for a gun to even be effective as home defense, all the stars have to be aligned - in your case you were home, you were awake, you heard the would-be burglar making noise, the burglar didn't shoot YOU when you surprised him by entering the room... that's already a lot of stars aligning, and even in that situation, what would a gun have really added? Unless you had the gun on your person, the burglar would still probably have escaped before you could get your gun. If you had the gun on your person and started to draw the gun, an armed burglar could and would shoot you before you could shoot him. IF the burglar was unarmed, and IF you had your gun at the ready, and IF the burglar was not positioned for an easy getaway, and IF you could even think straight in that situation - again, more stars aligning - I suppose you could have pulled out your gun and held the burglar till the police arrived. You and your possessions wouldn't be any safer than in the original scenario, but you'd have "caught" a bad guy.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Today I was looking up quotes with the key word of silence in them. edgineered May 2014 #1
Do a security assessment of the house to see what is and isn't secure. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #2
Well I got a dog so that helps. minivan2 May 2014 #4
statistically that probably won't make you safer. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #6
Lol newfie11 May 2014 #14
I have a couple of "BEWARE OF THE DOG" signs on my property. MADem May 2014 #54
get a couple at least. you need a back up gun to protect the main gun against theft. piratefish08 May 2014 #15
Really you need a whole arsenal marions ghost May 2014 #18
Here's what I have... L0oniX May 2014 #33
The Iranians are coming to your house... Jesus Malverde May 2014 #36
Looks expensive marions ghost May 2014 #43
Ebay has em. L0oniX May 2014 #50
Meh, too messy. IronGate May 2014 #58
That's a good start badtoworse May 2014 #46
Yeah, no problem getting blood out of the new rug. aquart May 2014 #52
Pssh Separation May 2014 #74
Why don't you get a security system instead . upaloopa May 2014 #30
Are you trained and proficient with guns? SQUEE May 2014 #62
I have a brother who is a firearms instructor. Bazinga May 2014 #72
After my house was robbed, hollysmom May 2014 #7
Something that makes noise when the window is moved also helps. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #8
well, I also never cut down deciduous trees, so hollysmom May 2014 #9
Best solution pipi_k May 2014 #34
I get a feeling the OP was looking for a particular answer. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #35
Yeah, as I was replying pipi_k May 2014 #44
Yep, that would be a definite solution, and depending on the risk, location, type of window and all RKP5637 May 2014 #76
Quick Fix for now: If you've got the old school windows with the panes on 'em that you lift up, MADem May 2014 #3
"Maybe raid the Christmas box and tack up a few jingle bells on the window"--great suggestion! nt raccoon May 2014 #11
I have "caravanserai bells" on every door..! MADem May 2014 #56
Another thing that works well pipi_k May 2014 #41
I'd forgotten about that. We actually did it with the front bedroom windows... Hekate May 2014 #47
+1 -- they make fancy "kits" to accomplish the same purpose, but that's a cheaper alternative! nt MADem May 2014 #55
All excellent ideas! n/t RKP5637 May 2014 #77
I've lived in places with less-than-optimal crime rates and had to do "security on a budget!" nt MADem May 2014 #80
Secure the window as others in this thread have suggested Hekate May 2014 #5
purse shanti May 2014 #26
Look into motion lights installed on safeinOhio May 2014 #10
Everyone has some really good ideas. laundry_queen May 2014 #12
If anything a gun thats handy for home defense is also one of the first things stolen. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #13
Better to have one and not need it than need one and not have it. JJChambers May 2014 #16
You need to secure a gun when your not around, but you need access to it when you are. Jesus Malverde May 2014 #17
Biometric quick access safes for bedtime, holsters for day time. All others in the main safe. JJChambers May 2014 #19
Right, and also marions ghost May 2014 #20
Who cannot learn this simple task safely "no matter what?" JJChambers May 2014 #23
Gun owners won't ever accept this... marions ghost May 2014 #27
I've been teaching gun safety for over a decade Lee-Lee May 2014 #63
I'm sure you want to think so... marions ghost May 2014 #70
What experience is your estimate based on? Lee-Lee May 2014 #71
Working with people marions ghost May 2014 #81
I hate to admit you might be right. SQUEE May 2014 #73
Agree marions ghost May 2014 #82
The delusional fantasy of quick draw gun owners. aquart May 2014 #51
Biometric safe, open in seconds Lee-Lee May 2014 #64
That is one problem with guns. How will you react when tacky psyche kicks in? L0oniX May 2014 #28
Excellent point marions ghost May 2014 #40
I don't need one upaloopa May 2014 #32
Guns are the answer for some. JJChambers May 2014 #57
In your paradigm you can't see anything but upaloopa May 2014 #61
I don't think guns are the only answer. JJChambers May 2014 #66
Well you stand a significantly better chance of being upaloopa May 2014 #67
My life has been saved by someone with a gun. I'll take my chances. JJChambers May 2014 #68
That's the way it works around here. hunter May 2014 #45
Gun use is reactive. Proactive is what is needed. L0oniX May 2014 #29
Good point marions ghost May 2014 #38
There are some very attractive "defensive" bushes that have flowers, too. Great idea. Hekate May 2014 #48
In the future, take care not to leave expensive items that can be seen Lex May 2014 #21
Get a parrot named Moses that says Jesus is watching you. hobbit709 May 2014 #22
Home security sarisataka May 2014 #24
Thank you for saying this so clearly marions ghost May 2014 #31
I begin my carry classes in a similar fashion sarisataka May 2014 #37
That's responsible marions ghost May 2014 #39
Video security warning stickers and dummy cams work ...and its cheap. L0oniX May 2014 #25
A lot of good advice, I won't add to that. This will be disturbing... Eleanors38 May 2014 #42
If the dogs are not upset, I'm not upset. hunter May 2014 #49
All the VICTIM BLAMING on this thread is DISGUSTING! FBaggins May 2014 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author minivan2 May 2014 #60
Get a gun LittleBlue May 2014 #59
Yeah because this burglar would know that how? Lex May 2014 #65
Plant blackberry bushes all the way around your house jmowreader May 2014 #69
Well, Crepuscular May 2014 #75
Based on post #4, this probably isn't a sincere thread. Nine May 2014 #78
We keep wheniwasincongress May 2014 #79
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»So someone tried to break...»Reply #78