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cui bono

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68. Not necessarily. It is being bred out of them by real breeders who love the dog.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 03:57 AM
Mar 2014

Problem is backyard breeders are idiots and usually macho a-holes who breed all aggression into them.

Back in the day they were bred to only be dog aggressive. If a dog showed human aggression it was put down. This was so that people could always handle them even if they were fighting dogs. And the prize fighters usually retired into the owner's home. They weren't treated like they are now by the a-holes who fight them. Those guys will slam their dog into a fence if it loses, or toss it into the trunk of the car. Any animal who gets treated like that would have an inclination to be aggressive.

Anyway, breeders are breeding out all aggression, but unfortunately due to illegal fighting and macho idiots who think it's cool to have an aggressive dog, backyard breeders are into breeding aggression in as well as mistreating the dogs.

If you read books about the breed you'll find they all say they make a great family pet. In the fifties they were known as one of, if not the, best family breeds. They don't necessarily have any prey drive. They were not hunting dogs. Plus they are extremely obedient and learn very quickly with minimal training. People need to understand dogs though, and as with any dog, need to make sure the dog knows who is dominant. And that doesn't mean being mean to the dog, just letting them know you are the leader of the pack and they need to do what you want them to do right when you tell them to do it. My dogs were amazing. And my neighbor's pit, which she rescued from the shelter when he was about 2-3 years old, is completely non-confrontational. He avoids it. If I walk him by a barking dog he moves away from the fence. He wants nothing to do with that. My cat owns him. He is just a lover and has no desire to be aggressive at all. And he will do whatever you tell him to do. His main goal in life is to be a good boy.

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Why Pit Bulls Don't Deserve a Bad Rap [View all] question everything Mar 2014 OP
same hysteria is applied to firearms as well. NM_Birder Mar 2014 #1
Never heard of anyone grabbing a pit bull from his owner question everything Mar 2014 #3
responsibily ....that was the point. NM_Birder Mar 2014 #4
Yes. I have heard of a firearm shooting a hole in a kid's face. n/t cui bono Mar 2014 #17
no you haven't NM_Birder Mar 2014 #28
Huh, I thought the guns comparison might not happen 'til 4th reply. uppityperson Mar 2014 #7
it's always there eventually Skittles Mar 2014 #15
Did you know more people are injured by hammers than guns? uppityperson Mar 2014 #23
it must be true if you read it on the internets, uppityperson Skittles Mar 2014 #27
Well, so long as there are people who believe guns have feelings... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #53
+100. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2014 #66
I'm not getting into the Pit Bull discussion but I have to take issue with one thing in the article. Lochloosa Mar 2014 #2
The problem with Pit Bulls (and other large dogs) is that... bvar22 Mar 2014 #5
The problem with pit bulls is that they have a very high prey drive and a high fight drive, Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #29
Not necessarily. It is being bred out of them by real breeders who love the dog. cui bono Mar 2014 #68
I can allow that if you find a pit bull from a breeder that can show you the parents, hedgehog Mar 2014 #84
Exactly. They don't go off 24/7, but when they do, they're more likely to kill nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #39
exactly. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #64
"Thousands of Pit Bulls are euthanized every day" hedgehog Mar 2014 #6
Dallas Animal Control averages 11 pit-bull mixes a day. dem in texas Mar 2014 #57
I congratulate you for being a level headed, responsible owner! hedgehog Mar 2014 #86
Owners of Pit Bulls should screened and registered seveneyes Mar 2014 #8
Do you feel the same about other dogs of a certain size? uppityperson Mar 2014 #13
Just the ones with a history of hurting humans seveneyes Mar 2014 #21
Which is all dogs of a certain size. Conclusion of the oft posted CDC report... uppityperson Mar 2014 #22
There's no such dog. DirkGently Mar 2014 #32
There's no such dog, yet we are being told that thousands are being euthanized every day, hedgehog Mar 2014 #81
That's right. Dogs we can't even reliably identify are put down on the basis DirkGently Mar 2014 #82
All dogs are. Nt roody Mar 2014 #49
All dogs are supposed to be registered and licensed, at least in the cities I've lived in. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #58
Most generally its the owner who is at fault madokie Mar 2014 #9
What happened to the pit next door to change its temperment? hedgehog Mar 2014 #10
I don't know madokie Mar 2014 #12
If the only variable in serious dog attacks... meaculpa2011 Mar 2014 #11
Link to your assertion "two or three breeds account for the ovewhelming majority of serious..." uppityperson Mar 2014 #14
CDC Study meaculpa2011 Mar 2014 #16
"other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates" per their conclusions. uppityperson Mar 2014 #18
LOL NM_Birder Mar 2014 #71
The CDC themselves called this report bunk. flvegan Mar 2014 #34
One way to check out the relative hazard is to call up your insurance agent and hedgehog Mar 2014 #19
Like the CDC report which concludes "other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates". uppityperson Mar 2014 #20
Yup. That's the bottom line about this - insurance rates. Insurance won't Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #42
And of course insurance companies rely on things like that CDC report which concludes uppityperson Mar 2014 #60
Insurance companies react to which pocket it's hurting them in. When it's the PIT BULL pocket, it's Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #73
That's a pretty silly conceit regarding "Insurance." DirkGently Mar 2014 #87
I love pit bulls! cui bono Mar 2014 #24
Oh, they are cute question everything Mar 2014 #36
=) cui bono Mar 2014 #67
Pit bulls are euthenized because insurance does not cover them, and statistics of death-resulting Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #25
"Pit bull" is a meaningless term. DirkGently Mar 2014 #30
Dog breeds were created for specific purposes XemaSab Mar 2014 #31
Dogs *evolved* to kill animals. They're carnivores? DirkGently Mar 2014 #33
Exactly. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #40
Then it's a far bigger problem than previously thought. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #38
"pit bull breed, generic or not"? So there is a "pit bull breed" comprised of dogs that aren't pit uppityperson Mar 2014 #61
It's still not a breed issue. And insurance companies DirkGently Mar 2014 #83
You have convinced me randr Mar 2014 #26
You'd be a fool to let her play with a Shepherd, Akita, Mastiff, DirkGently Mar 2014 #35
You are correct randr Mar 2014 #37
My only point. The other large ones, though, are equally DirkGently Mar 2014 #85
You're right. There is a huge degree of denial concerning pit bulls Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #41
What statistics? flvegan Mar 2014 #43
They've already been provided. Review the posts. If not satisfied, google them Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #44
So you're validating "statistics" that others have posted in this thread? flvegan Mar 2014 #45
flvegan, look, I know you like pit bulls Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #48
Don't care if you get it. flvegan Mar 2014 #51
Suit yourself It's clear your blinders are placed on quite nicely nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #54
Will do, kettle. LOL flvegan Mar 2014 #55
Extermination? What? I'm merely saying this breed should be unbred. It was bred by humans, Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #56
How do you "unbreed" a group of dogs you say are of every mixture possible, so long as they uppityperson Mar 2014 #63
Simple. You make sure there are no more pit bull breeders breeding pit bull with pit bull. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #72
Since you hate "pit bull-type generic of any sort mixture", wouldn't this be creating more of those? uppityperson Mar 2014 #78
Did you see upthread where "pit bull breed" is EVERY short haired powerfully built mutt of any uppityperson Mar 2014 #62
My father received 54 stitches...thanks to a poodle. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #59
Did you have your dad tied to a bed and place the poodle on his face or something? I'm not trying Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #74
Yes, you are 'trying' to be funny. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #77
exactly exactly exactly - could not agree more DrDan Mar 2014 #76
Right. We certainly couldn't believe any CDC statistics of hospital emergency rooms. pnwmom Mar 2014 #69
We would not let a small child JanMichael Mar 2014 #93
Sergeant Stubby approves this message. jazzimov Mar 2014 #46
Remember Patrick? WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #47
I think Pit Bulls get a bad rap because they possess a rather ugly, menacing appearance... Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #50
The problem is the amount of damage they can inflict when they do bite Warpy Mar 2014 #52
My neighbor FormerOstrich Mar 2014 #65
What a heart warming story question everything Mar 2014 #90
Why are pit bulls so more likely than other dogs to end up in shelters? pnwmom Mar 2014 #70
I think a big problem is that they are cheap and disposible Marrah_G Mar 2014 #75
table of fatal dog attacks this year Nine Mar 2014 #79
Would be helpful if the table included the owners' parts question everything Mar 2014 #91
Like ALL issues, the "Pit Bulls are dangerous" meme... Whiskeytide Mar 2014 #80
A well written summary of the problem! hedgehog Mar 2014 #88
Agree. Thank you (nt) question everything Mar 2014 #92
. NealK Mar 2014 #89
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