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Tommy_Carcetti

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117. Sorry.

Thu Oct 17, 2013, 03:13 PM

Oct 2013

I don't identify with the Catholic Church of the Crusades or Inquisition since I lived during neither time period.

As for contemporary issues such as cover up of abuse or the unwillingness of the hierarchy to consider married and female clergy, I can discuss and take opposition to those practices without it changing my underlying deeply held beliefs. And I do.

I don't know what your point is. I honestly don't think you have one, other than just wanting to take cheap shots.

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My Favorite RWNJ Headline In the History of Planet Earth:Obama Admin Tries to Lock up Body of Christ [View all] Playinghardball Oct 2013 OP

If Jesus really is who they say he is, couldn't he have gotten out of there The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #1

shhhh! you'll ruin their narrative about Obama Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #3

But if Jesus is in cracker form he has no arms, see. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #5

You saying he cannot morph and assuming other forms??! Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #53

Hmm, good point. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #66

No, no, no...it's "Jesus Christ ON a cracker", not "Jesus Christ IS a cracker". Ken Burch Oct 2013 #153

He's Jesus, not Houdini! Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #170

rec! these people are so out there looney tunes. smh!!! Divine Discontent Oct 2013 #2

These people are crackers ... about crackers. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #4

NOT FUNNY!!!! hrmjustin Oct 2013 #8

To me claiming that someone locked up an ancient Judean in the form of a cracker is pretty funny. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #9

Your post makes fun of a deeply held faith. I am used to critizism but your post is offensive. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #10

Deeply held faith? Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #11

Roman Catholics are not the only ones who believe in the real presence of the Jesus in the host. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #12

Really? In this year, 2013, we're all supposed to pretend that Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #14

Your post was not critizing it is down right offensive. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #15

Stephen Fry summed it up nicely. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #20

So fucking what. rug Oct 2013 #31

Who fucking cares. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #33

Ah, stealing my quotes. rug Oct 2013 #34

Sorry, that's a Chris Rock quote. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #36

Last word compulsion? rug Oct 2013 #37

Don't look now, but you're projecting again. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #38

if you're going to complain about recycled memes Lordquinton Oct 2013 #51

I have a deeply held belief that it would be much better for modern people Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #23

Ok fine, your not going to take it down. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #25

It's a discussion forum. Stuff gets put out there. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #28

A discussion forum is not a sandbox for juvenile antics. rug Oct 2013 #32

Juvenile antics? It's a lighthearted, funny thread about wacky anti-Obama religious nutjobs. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #83

So lighthearted and funny. rug Oct 2013 #86

I posted that after a DUer suggested self censorship. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #88

He suggested civility not self-censorship. rug Oct 2013 #93

No one told you to shut up here. All I did was ask you to reconsider. You said no. That is that. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #165

This is the best post in the whole thread. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #164

Arugula: Nobody is saying that "we're all supposed to" do anything or believe anything. Expect be... Hekate Oct 2013 #22

When someone says that they are offended by a picture of a cracker, it's not "personal faith" cleanhippie Oct 2013 #24

It's not the picture. Pab Sungenis Oct 2013 #139

The Constitution is a piece of paper that we base the structure of our government on... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #150

It is just a piece of bread until the priest performs mass Marrah_G Oct 2013 #160

Sure, it means something to everyone. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #161

See post #23. Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #26

No one here says you can not have a belief. I just thought the post was harsh. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author skepticscott May 2014 #183

Yes, because he doesn't moprph into a cracker, it's a fucking Wafer, and not a Nilla one either... Demo_Chris Oct 2013 #54

I find that you believe a cracker turns into Jesus offensive. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #16

So I have to believe like you? hrmjustin Oct 2013 #17

Believe like me about what? cleanhippie Oct 2013 #18

Your opinion. I am not going to argue the point believe what you will. We disagree. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #19

Physics an the natural laws of the universe are opinion? cleanhippie Oct 2013 #21

Sometimes Caretha Oct 2013 #56

Exactly. Roman Catholic doesn't have a great recent history... Buddha_of_Wisdom Oct 2013 #35

You are absolutely wrong... rexcat Oct 2013 #39

Am I the "that one"? hrmjustin Oct 2013 #41

I do believe that I was responding to cleanhippie... rexcat Oct 2013 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Oct 2013 #43

I am sorry I read your post wrong and thought you meant me. I am sorry. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #44

The humor of the situation is that you think it's magic. rug Oct 2013 #45

Actually... rexcat Oct 2013 #46

I am sorry to but in again but I am sorry that your in-laws feel that way. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #47

All my in-laws are doing is mimicking... rexcat Oct 2013 #61

"Valid proof" may be pertinent if it was a lab experiment. rug Oct 2013 #48

But it is pertinent to the situation... uriel1972 Oct 2013 #50

Nice response on your part... rexcat Oct 2013 #60

Horse dodo... rexcat Oct 2013 #59

So what? You do not have the right not to be offended. mr blur Oct 2013 #52

Have a blest day! hrmjustin Oct 2013 #79

My sister is an ordained Episcopalian minister and she holds no such belief. Scuba Oct 2013 #57

Not every Episcopalian holds the belief but a majority of the Anglican communion does. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #70

It is my understanding that that is not dogma of the Episcopalians Goblinmonger Oct 2013 #58

No, you were not led astray. A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #67

We don't believe in explaning it but we do believe in the real presence. If you come here to NY hrmjustin Oct 2013 #72

Believing in "the real presence".... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #81

It is not cannibalistic and that is just plain rude! hrmjustin Oct 2013 #84

? A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #85

I self corrected my post. Calling is cannabalistic is rude. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #87

Well, it isn't rude, it is in fact a cannibalistic ritual. A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #90

Nice talking to you and have a good day. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #91

Well, that was easy. A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #95

I won't shut up. I am just done talking to you. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #96

Again..... A HERETIC I AM Oct 2013 #97

If Jesus is God in human form Gore1FL Oct 2013 #92

I am done! hrmjustin Oct 2013 #94

I see you know as little about the hypostatic union as you do of transubstantiation. rug Oct 2013 #98

Psst. It's a joke. Gore1FL Oct 2013 #99

I'm glad you identified what it is. rug Oct 2013 #100

Communion is Jesus' way of saying "Eat Me!" n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #101

I'm surprised you root for the Cardinals. rug Oct 2013 #102

Only the baseball team and the birds themselves. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #106

NOT FUNNY!!!! hrmjustin Oct 2013 #104

Matthew 26:26 is rather dry as far as humor goes. Gore1FL Oct 2013 #107

Your description is not funny! hrmjustin Oct 2013 #108

Yet, it is accurate. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #109

Can I ask you why you feel the need to make fun of our faith? hrmjustin Oct 2013 #110

It could be a lot of things: Gore1FL Oct 2013 #112

Do people here tell you that you are going to suffer hell? Anyone on DU say that to you? hrmjustin Oct 2013 #113

Not that I recall. Oprah doesn't post here either, that I am aware of. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #114

This post is not about Oprah. If you look in religion you will see I spoke up and said she was hrmjustin Oct 2013 #116

Did you call out the Vatican about thew whole eternal damnation thing too? n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #118

First of all I am not a Roman Catholic. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #119

So why is Communion believable while Hell isn't? Gore1FL Oct 2013 #122

I am not a cafeteria-style Christian. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #123

So when Jesus mentioned Gehenna in Mark 9:44, 9:46, and 9:48 he was lying? n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #124

I don't believe in hell. If God does not send you to heaven that he makes you no longer exist. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #125

So I will go there? n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #126

Why would you go there? hrmjustin Oct 2013 #129

John 14:6 Gore1FL Oct 2013 #133

I am a devout Christian. I don't think you are going to hell because I don't believe in it. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #135

That brings us back to the cafeteria, again, however. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #138

Well I believe what I believe. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #142

You believe what you CHOOSE to believe. cleanhippie Oct 2013 #162

It is not a dogma but a belief held by most Episcopalians and the wrold wide Anglican church. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #71

My mother is an Episcopalian, and she doesn't believe in transubstantiation. PassingFair Oct 2013 #62

I never said Episcopalians believe in transubstantiation. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #69

Um, just so you know where this is coming from Goblinmonger Oct 2013 #73

Yes you are right that I did not make myself clear. We don't believe in explaining it. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #75

No supernatural concept can be "explained". nt PassingFair Oct 2013 #77

Yes faith is hard to expalin. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #80

You can certainly believe what you want Goblinmonger Oct 2013 #78

I know my friend. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #82

OK...I must be seeing things. PassingFair Oct 2013 #74

My fault I did not explain myself. We do not believe in explaining it. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author Brickbat Oct 2013 #151

A little difference: the Anglican churches believe in transignification, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #171

Some do. Many Anglicans however do believe in the real presence and I have to say that group is hrmjustin Oct 2013 #174

Not to worry Justin. When people thrive on mocking those they see as *others*, cbayer Oct 2013 #68

NOt meaning to add fuel to the fire but.. rbixby Oct 2013 #127

It is not cannibalism. I am not a RC but Episcopalian but I believe in the real presence as well. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #128

I know its only symbolic rbixby Oct 2013 #130

This is the commandment Jesus gaves his followers. We follow it. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #132

It was just something that I couldn't really get behind when I was into Christianity rbixby Oct 2013 #140

That is ok. Not everyone believes it. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #143

The "real presence" concept is not the same as transubstantiation. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #173

No the real presence as I am taught in my church is the fact that Jesus is there literally. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #175

I am a lapsed Episcopalian and I always understood The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #177

Anglicans are all over the map. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #179

I suspect your ignorance of the subject goes a lot further than any perceived silliness. rug Oct 2013 #30

+1 L0oniX Oct 2013 #63

Over the line. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #105

Your religious leaders have murdered and raped Bradical79 Oct 2013 #115

Sorry. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #117

Maybe this post will clarify a bit. Bradical79 Oct 2013 #120

No, it doesn't. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2013 #121

+1 nomorenomore08 Oct 2013 #131

+1 nt Tree-Hugger Oct 2013 #159

Got anything equally hilarious about Jews? Muslims? cbayer Oct 2013 #144

I was reacting to the posted story which was about anti-Obama nutjobs freaking out Arugula Latte Oct 2013 #147

"Most of us"? Hardly. cbayer Oct 2013 #149

Many former Muslims and Jews I'm sure find all sorts of things... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #154

What does this have to do with former Muslims and Jews? cbayer Oct 2013 #155

People make fun of what they are familiar with, for example, I find the... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #156

It's about being sensitive to and tolerant of those that see things differently, particularly when cbayer Oct 2013 #157

You are conflating two separate things, respecting the rights of people to hold stupid beliefs... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #166

Your definition of humanism must be much different from mine and cbayer Oct 2013 #167

I value people as people, their ideas are different matter entirely... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #168

I think what you are saying makes sense. cbayer Oct 2013 #169

You err in thinking I'm a Democrat(capital D), or call myself a progressive, I'm a Socialist... Humanist_Activist Oct 2013 #172

Yep Gore1FL Oct 2013 #181

got milk? piratefish08 Oct 2013 #163

These fugging people are raving lunatics malaise Oct 2013 #6

That story reminds me of some of the religious right people that got interviewed during and after bluestate10 Oct 2013 #7

Ah, Right Wing Nut Job. I couldn't figure out what New Jersey... Silent3 Oct 2013 #13

This is the first time, but I must admit, I always wanted to use this smiley... yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #27

So what's the back story here? ohheckyeah Oct 2013 #40

The backstory is that� regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #146

thanks for the info.... ohheckyeah Oct 2013 #148

What does Obama have to do with this? Curmudgeoness Oct 2013 #49

My son went to St. Thomas More School here in the Philippines. 4bucksagallon Oct 2013 #55

The Thomas More Law Center is a RWNJ operation caraher Oct 2013 #136

Thomas More was a 16th-century theologian and politician� regnaD kciN Oct 2013 #145

OFFS ...that's just bat shit crazy. L0oniX Oct 2013 #64

Is this satire? Please tell me this is satire!! Initech Oct 2013 #65

We were taught that it was simply unleavened bread... Contrary1 Oct 2013 #89

Where is Bill O'Reilly when you need him? Jody Lane Oct 2013 #103

oh yee of little faith..the kingdom of heaven is within and without you... madrchsod Oct 2013 #111

It's. A. Fucking. Cracker. Vashta Nerada Oct 2013 #134

Jesus is best with cheese and salsa. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2013 #158

Followed closely by "Obama Staffer Proven to be Top Saddam Hussein Government Official." Dash87 Oct 2013 #137

The stupid, it hurts sakabatou Oct 2013 #141

Is Tom Robbins writing for Townhall now? Ken Burch Oct 2013 #152

Bullshit fadedrose Oct 2013 #176

Obviously, Obama should have ordered the contents of the church strewn around the yard krispos42 Oct 2013 #178

The truth is scarier than all the cracker jokes y'all are...well, cracking jmowreader Oct 2013 #180

Well, it IS Halloween. Jamastiene Oct 2013 #182

People have killed each other over the centuries Manifestor_of_Light May 2014 #184