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OneGrassRoot

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70. "Why should someone with more money have a louder voice than anyone else?"

Reply to Cowboy8541 (Reply #24)

Wed Feb 22, 2012, 08:34 AM

Feb 2012

EXACTLY.

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Did I hear Elliot Spitzer say on Bill Mahar he thinks Citizens United is FREE SPEECH [View all] bigdarryl Feb 2012 OP

How the hell would anyone know what you heard? jberryhill Feb 2012 #1

kind of kwanky tonite? n/t unionworks Feb 2012 #30

Naw... jberryhill Feb 2012 #31

Uh...It might..... daleanime Feb 2012 #38

Don't need a doctor jberryhill Feb 2012 #40

this might help unionworks Feb 2012 #48

Depends, did the dog talk about you being the son of Samhain? Dragonfli Feb 2012 #51

Hey, did you talk to my dog too! jberryhill Feb 2012 #58

Do you mean Elliot Spitzer? If so, that doesn't sound like him. nt gateley Feb 2012 #2

He was on Bill Maher tonight bigdarryl Feb 2012 #4

I watched the show and I was surprised but he did say that was free speech. Go figure. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #7

Odd. I just don't see how he could think that. Thanks! nt gateley Feb 2012 #16

Yes, I thought the same thing. Maher was surprised also. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #19

Yes, SPITZER said that and I agree with him and the SCOTUS banned from Kos Feb 2012 #3

I disagree, here's why: FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #6

OK, but in the trial one of the Justices asked this banned from Kos Feb 2012 #9

But SCOTUS ruled in favor because 5 conservative judges made it so. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #14

DING DING DING!! We have a winner! Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #17

I agree with you. banned from Kos Feb 2012 #21

So the DU should not be allowed to pool our money and run ads against the GOP? Logical Feb 2012 #23

It's ProSense Feb 2012 #27

absofuckinglutely right. Whisp Feb 2012 #29

Yep. This is the REAL problem. NYC Liberal Feb 2012 #35

My hope is that they've gone too far this time and as soon as we get the majority madokie Feb 2012 #47

That might work if the Democrats don't take the same SuperPac money, Dragonfli Feb 2012 #53

The problem is that as long as one side is using land mines Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #55

Unfortunately tho, no one will believe that the way to get rid of them is to support Dragonfli Feb 2012 #56

All very valid points Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #57

No doubt in my mind that you're right madokie Feb 2012 #59

I picked up on that as well. Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #5

I also disagree completely jsmirman Feb 2012 #10

Suppose Congress passed a law saying that nobody was allowed to spend money criticizing congressmen. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #22

You're assuming you have the money to run an ad. Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #24

"Why should someone with more money have a louder voice than anyone else?" SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #46

"Why should someone with more money have a louder voice than anyone else?" OneGrassRoot Feb 2012 #70

First of all jsmirman Feb 2012 #32

When does a corporation become a person? At conception or later? nanabugg Feb 2012 #34

Has Texas executed one yet? /nt Dragonfli Feb 2012 #54

If money is free speech than not having money must be silence SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #45

The ACLU also is in favor of Citizens United. (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #8

Actually it is free speech. People do not put enough thought into this...... Logical Feb 2012 #11

The deeper the pockets, the louder the voice Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #15

I 100% agree that it is out of control. It is hard to write a law.... Logical Feb 2012 #18

Well , I think FarLeftFist, post #14 is right on track Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #20

Every time ProSense Feb 2012 #12

Unless the democrats get Bill Gates or Opara Winfrey to form a PAC there going to get KILLED in this bigdarryl Feb 2012 #13

What unions? Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #28

Bullshit unionworks Feb 2012 #25

The Amendment: Loudly Feb 2012 #26

Look, if a corporation is a person Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #33

So Congress could ban newspapers from endorsing candidates for elections. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #36

I don't understand why collectives would be seen as people me b zola Feb 2012 #61

Rich people can afford to buy ads. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #64

I still don't understand the need to make this complicated me b zola Feb 2012 #66

Just went back and re read your post #26 Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #37

I agree with Spitzer. Vattel Feb 2012 #39

The New York Times publishing a paper? Fine. jsmirman Feb 2012 #41

The Citizens United case was about an anti-Clinton film. Vattel Feb 2012 #49

This is the kind of post that jsmirman Feb 2012 #60

I don't think you do know what Citizens United was about. Vattel Feb 2012 #65

This is the SECOND time you have ignored the text of my post jsmirman Feb 2012 #67

Sorry, I wasn't reading what you wrote carefully enough. Vattel Feb 2012 #68

Alright, I'll try to respond to this in the next few days jsmirman Feb 2012 #69

I'll be interested to see what your argument is. Vattel Feb 2012 #71

The restriction was only for 60 days before an election. Idiolect Feb 2012 #74

Yes jsmirman Feb 2012 #75

I know, Stevens was pissed that the case was essentially redefined Vattel Feb 2012 #76

for 60 days before an election Idiolect Feb 2012 #73

If the only thing you are trying to do is protect the 1st Amendment, if you TheKentuckian Feb 2012 #44

I don't think the Court can reasonably interpret Vattel Feb 2012 #50

Not so fast. Go back and read Loudly #26. Cowboy8541 Feb 2012 #52

under citizens united unions have the same rights as companies madrchsod Feb 2012 #42

And the rethugs always bring up unions when talking Citizens United bigdarryl Feb 2012 #43

Yes. It comes from making the term "free speech" into a holy law today mmonk Feb 2012 #62

So does Glenn Greenwald. Ikonoklast Feb 2012 #63

Here's what Spitzer said Idiolect Feb 2012 #72