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In reply to the discussion: The Convergence of the ‘Glenn Greenwald Left’ and the ‘Alex Jones Right’ [View all]SunSeeker
(58,286 posts)177. Have you departed the Democratic Party because of Snowden?
The fact that Cheney has not departed the Republican party does not mean he does not believe in marriage equality.
Cheney can be for marriage equality AND a neocon chicken-hawk.
Saying that so-and-so is against Snowden or for Snowden does not add much to the discussion.
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The Convergence of the ‘Glenn Greenwald Left’ and the ‘Alex Jones Right’ [View all]
flamingdem
Jul 2013
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No, not the a-hole right: From the Isle of Denial; Cesca Leads the Liberal Crusade Against Greenwald
flamingdem
Jul 2013
#5
You know, at the end of the day your post is insulting to the majority of the board.
Mojorabbit
Jul 2013
#217
Exactly. The asshole Center Right, like conservative republicans, have to make things up because
Zorra
Jul 2013
#96
You're saying: If you’re not screeching about the conspiracy, you’re clearly part of the conspiracy.
flamingdem
Jul 2013
#37
Nah, she was just establishing credentials with that. There's no going back for some.
leveymg
Jul 2013
#146
Does that traitor Cheney support 'marriage equality'? Funny that he belongs
HardTimes99
Jul 2013
#127
Cheney's supported marriage equality for years. Must be anathema to our democratic republic, right?
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#134
Pointing out that Snowden and Greenwald are wrong on many of the issues is not an ad hominem attack.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#182
Saying that they're like Alex Jones, and therefore should not be listened to
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2013
#192
You think that the CIA, NSA and military all suddenly changed when Obama took over from Bush?
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2013
#201
No. Holding a personal opinion that Greenwald or Smowden wrong on particular issues...
bvar22
Jul 2013
#193
I didn't bring up Cheney, HardTimes99 did, to do exactly what you are carrying on about.
SunSeeker
Jul 2013
#203
They've both been spilling the same garbage for years and nothing has come to fruition.
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#9
Information so critical to "liberty" we have to wait until 2014 to find out,
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#16
When Snowden spouts Russia's secrets I might believe he didn't give them intel
flamingdem
Jul 2013
#46
Not saying he's an agent, but he gave the Chinese intel, why not Russia as Greenwald said
flamingdem
Jul 2013
#56
Or maybe the issue is that Snowden never worked for the Russian government.
D23MIURG23
Jul 2013
#258
I'd say as a teenager I was prone to "anti-government" sentiment & was very cynical. George Carlin
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#22
I'm 25 now, but from 18-22 I went from one extreme to another until I settled where I am now.
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#28
There are no cattle cars, FEMA camps, and drone strikes on Smalltown USA coffee shops
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#142
This idea that there is one "government" and we either trust it or not is a bizarre generalization.
D23MIURG23
Jul 2013
#292
Witness the freaking out over a man in a funny hat taking pix at Comic-Con and the presence
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#14
does natural news claim the government is poisoning our water with flouride?
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#27
no, but why don't you obsess over Catherine's hoax or conspiracies regarding security at Comic-Con.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#102
Ah, but you need to trot out "the map". And if I respond w/another appropriate map
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#107
LOL! It's happened several times… my response to the map goading got hidden several times AND
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#120
Oh damn! I saw that. That was the thread that made me want to join this place.
matthews
Jul 2013
#167
No, this clearly points to the methods both extremes use and circumstances they take advantage of.
KittyWampus
Jul 2013
#26
It is an ad hominem attack on anyone who does not like the continuation of Bush data-mining programs
AgingAmerican
Jul 2013
#65
Actual "Democrats" already "support" the president. He's gone from 81% to 84% in recent weeks.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#170
Everything is a logical fallacy if you don't agree with the law school dropout keyboard warriors. nt
AllINeedIsCoffee
Jul 2013
#185
I like it how you are using an Ad hom in an attempt to dismiss people who point out bad arguments.
D23MIURG23
Jul 2013
#226
If someone has a valid point to make they shouldn't need to employ fallacies.
D23MIURG23
Jul 2013
#229
Whether or not something constitutes an ad hominem attack is a pretty empirical question n/t
markpkessinger
Jul 2013
#264
But would you agree that the accusation is used incorrectly, more often than not?
Politicub
Jul 2013
#267
Maybe, if the FSB sets him up at a work station and gives him all the passwords. That would be
leveymg
Jul 2013
#57
THANK YOU!! I am DYING laughing at the people who have posted 12, 13 times in this thread
Number23
Jul 2013
#284
You really have to wonder at the insistence that the topic is "tedious", but then they proceed to...
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#298
"The refugees from the Beavis & Butthead Chatroom at AoL have had an effect"
D23MIURG23
Jul 2013
#263
"potentially gathering metadata from Facebook" yeah that is what happened,. lolz
Civilization2
Jul 2013
#79
Cesca is an idiot. Single payer would have the same confidentiality regulations as Medicare...
Luminous Animal
Jul 2013
#87
Reps. Brad Miller and James Sensenbrenner were concerned about data mining in 2007.
OnyxCollie
Jul 2013
#95
Funny that, huh? They want the government all up in their colon, but not their internet porn.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#190
Bob Cesca is extremely dishonest and his attacks on Dan Choi were not only
Bluenorthwest
Jul 2013
#104
AMEN!! kNR!! and it's coming from the same nuts who claimed George W. Bush lied us into the
Douglas Carpenter
Jul 2013
#108
Everyone is for transparency, but no one is for public confession and repentance
FarCenter
Jul 2013
#168
Privacy is an inadequate substitute for minimal laws and broad civil moral and ethical standards
FarCenter
Jul 2013
#181
Definitely, a "subsection". Actual Democrats, especially liberal "Democrats" support the POTUS.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#208
He had a drop in CA over marijuana enforcement. He'll recover. He always does. It's CA.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#245
Actual Democrats, especially liberal Democrats, aren't bigots, either, Tarheel_Dem
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2013
#296
I stand by both statements. If I didn't, I would've deleted the post. People like you are such....
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#299
No, it's you, a proud bigot, posing as a Democrat, that I can't stand
muriel_volestrangler
Jul 2013
#300
You should discuss your "concerns" with MIRT. Who died & left you the key to DU?
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#301
Shorter Flamingdem: Why would you worry about government surveillance if you have nothing to hide?
D23MIURG23
Jul 2013
#149
I s'pose I'm apolitical as I've never invested any time in listening to either one.
LanternWaste
Jul 2013
#169
And Dennis Kucinich is "hugely popular" in Europe! Not a single link from that one.
Tarheel_Dem
Jul 2013
#302
"Please, please, please, please, pleeeeeease bring back the unrec feature for..."
bunnies
Jul 2013
#316