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In reply to the discussion: Glenn Greenwald: Growing Backlash Against NSA Spying Shows Why U.S. Wants to Silence Edward Snowden [View all]caseymoz
(5,763 posts)25. I don't think one issue can be split from the other.
One stance undercuts the other. If it wasn't going to be disclosed by someone working in the NSA ranks, how else did you expect it to be uncovered? Plus, the NSA and CIA do their work in the very same way Snowden did his disclosure. Through getting moles and spying. Homeland Security suppressed the Occupy Movement in just that way. Yet, Snowden is the unlawful one?
The main people the NSA program was spying on were US citizens, who had a right to know. And we are not a foreign power to our government.
If the government is turning Fascist and has so much power, our options are limited as to how to scale it back. Snowden is like Daniel Ellsberg, who has praised him, and if liberals such as yourself can't embrace Snowden, then we can call the struggle against fascism lost. Everybody will think twice about stopping it if Liberals are going to adopt the Conservative-fascist "rule of law" meme without question and kick Snowden under the bus.
Android3.14's stalking you? All that information is available publicly here with two clicks of a mouse if you've never noticed. If you're that touchy about surveillance, you should really think twice about what Snowden is doing for you.
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Glenn Greenwald: Growing Backlash Against NSA Spying Shows Why U.S. Wants to Silence Edward Snowden [View all]
xchrom
Jul 2013
OP
You don't think it's because he is in a foreign land telling them about US agencies?
liberal N proud
Jul 2013
#1
If "most alert Americans" already knew about the spying, why wouldn't the Russians?
Comrade Grumpy
Jul 2013
#38
My problem with Snowden isn't the fact that he exposed the data collection
liberal N proud
Jul 2013
#29
Cuz he doesn't want to be tortured or held without trial? Sorry, in my view, he's defending our
grahamhgreen
Jul 2013
#31
No, they have people adjudicated not guilt in Gitmo... Yet they are still imprisoned.
grahamhgreen
Jul 2013
#41