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185. No "Birth of a Nation"? n/t

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The 20 Most Historically Inaccurate Movies Ever [View all] steve2470 Jun 2013 OP

Iron Sky Electric Monk Jun 2013 #1

I need to see that lol nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #3

Yeah, you do. Iggo Jun 2013 #40

i thought IRON SKY was based on a true story? zappaman Jun 2013 #22

Only if Sarah Palin wins in 2016. DetlefK Jun 2013 #142

it's true that the Nazis were rumoured to have space travel librechik Jun 2013 #171

I totally believed it until I saw the guy riding the motorcycle across the lunar surface. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #27

It isn't intended to be historical. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #43

how about hysterical? stevebreeze Jun 2013 #129

I'll endorse Iron Sky NBachers Jun 2013 #135

NetFlix is pushing that one on me, SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #183

All movies based on the Bible. DavidDvorkin Jun 2013 #2

Good one! LeftofObama Jun 2013 #4

Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" must certainly be a contender. hunter Jun 2013 #6

"Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed...." Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #10

And he probably looked more like Yassir Arafat than Jim Caviezel! nt MADem Jun 2013 #35

You're exactly right... Arafat looked markedly older. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #121

No--the "real" Jesus. He was from Nazareth, in Palestine. MADem Jun 2013 #122

. Iggo Jun 2013 #41

Exactly. DavidDvorkin Jun 2013 #54

I'm going to take it that your "." and mocking smilie mean you disagree with the MADem Jun 2013 #143

. Iggo Jun 2013 #144

So you don't want your POV to be granted any credence, then. Thanks for clearing that up. nt MADem Jun 2013 #147

. Iggo Jun 2013 #148

Could virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Mithra existed? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #59

I found the website for your source on the internet, for those who are interested. MADem Jun 2013 #146

"Citations needed" DavidDvorkin Jun 2013 #69

Here ya go: Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #73

Yet none of that constitutes proof. MNBrewer Jun 2013 #108

Just assertions DavidDvorkin Jun 2013 #110

It's the overwhelming consensus of reputable historians. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #113

You've given us four names DavidDvorkin Jun 2013 #115

If you won't acknowledge that an overwhelming majority of secular historians Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #116

I acknowledge that you keep asserting that that is the case DavidDvorkin Jun 2013 #117

How do we know anyone we never met existed? Did Pontius Pilot really exist do you think? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #137

There is actual contemporary Roman evidence for the existence of Pontius Pilate DavidDvorkin Jun 2013 #140

There is? Is it "evidence" or someone "asserting" that this person existed? MADem Jun 2013 #150

Is there? Lionel Mandrake Jun 2013 #154

Here's an important bit of evidence DavidDvorkin Jun 2013 #157

Thank you. Lionel Mandrake Jun 2013 #160

How do we know anyone existed? Well, usually there is corroborating evidence from several sources... Moonwalk Jun 2013 #181

Aaah, consensus, not evidence is sufficient... truebrit71 Jun 2013 #166

And please show me a movie based on the bible... gcomeau Jun 2013 #84

Sorry, that is so incorrect it's boggling. defacto7 Jun 2013 #134

Based on faith or fact? Lithos Jun 2013 #152

It's not even faithful to the accounts in the gospels ... Bake Jun 2013 #182

Yep, that's what I heard. hunter Jun 2013 #187

And the music is way better too! Bake Jun 2013 #188

LOL! PM Martin Jun 2013 #58

Precisely. (nt) oxymoron Jun 2013 #174

Yes, especially the ones starring Charlton Heston Warpy Jun 2013 #177

Watched the end of Elizabeth last night dlwickham Jun 2013 #5

JJ Abrams' Star Trek reboot. longship Jun 2013 #7

I agree about the flares burnodo Jun 2013 #103

Don't get me started. Flares are no better than a microphone dropping from the top of the screen arcane1 Jun 2013 #133

And that 35 years of iconic SciFi culture can be casually disregarded! longship Jun 2013 #141

But it is NOT disregarded! In fact, if you recall the "Mirror, Mirror" universe, it is regarded-- Moonwalk Jun 2013 #180

The Doors jumps out at me. That was depressing. Every day couldn't have been a bad day. You knew brewens Jun 2013 #8

Platoon isn't based on one specific unit or story Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #161

I watched Stone's company commander on C-Span2, plugging his book. I can't remember the brewens Jun 2013 #173

I can't get over the fact that when Jim stalks and peeps on his soon to be girlfriend Springslips Jun 2013 #163

I'm assuming this is based on movies that at least gave some lip service hughee99 Jun 2013 #9

I have to see this too lol steve2470 Jun 2013 #11

Bubba Ho-Tep is AWESOME! SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #184

No Disney? Generic Other Jun 2013 #12

This is a pretty flawed article. Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #13

A lot of them seem to be "this aspect is off therefore WORST THING EVAR." Posteritatis Jun 2013 #20

The Big Year XemaSab Jun 2013 #14

"The Green Berets", John Wayne, final scene, the sun sets in the east 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #15

Also the "liberal journalist" sees the error of his ways and embraces the war effort without... Tom Ripley Jun 2013 #24

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Wasn't it filmed in the Philippines? panader0 Jun 2013 #47

It was fillmed in GA, mostly Ft Benning YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #93

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #104

I spent a year in Nha Trang, and I can testify that the sun NEVER set over the South China Sea Glorfindel Jun 2013 #106

no kidding arely staircase Jun 2013 #72

Missed Born on the Fourth of July! whistler162 Jun 2013 #16

Oliver Stone can not do accurate history to same his life. Archae Jun 2013 #26

Utter nonsense. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #78

Armageddon with Bruce Willis neverforget Jun 2013 #17

It is a spoof. It isn't supposed to be accurate. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #49

Maybe I should have put neverforget Jun 2013 #56

Armageddon sure stank Socialistlemur Jun 2013 #92

It isn't on my "watch again on DVD" list either. N/T GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #118

Spartacus LittleBlue Jun 2013 #18

Huh? You mean I'm not Spartacus? Does that mean that I have to let all of the Helots I patrice Jun 2013 #76

The movie "Pearl Harbor" (Ben Affleck) was unwatchable... Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #19

I watched that and "The Patriot" in the same week; I still have scars. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #21

That is because the name Affleck and the word watchable can not be used in the same sentence. 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #23

Never mind the historical details...the ACTING was ghastly! MADem Jun 2013 #37

I grant movies some flexibility on stuff like that. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #51

I do too, but the Knox-class frigates went way over the line. Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 #55

I watched this movie in 1971 with my college roomie (Japanese). Chipper Chat Jun 2013 #65

Yes, I hated this movie davidpdx Jun 2013 #124

That movie made me cheer for the Japanese! jberryhill Jun 2013 #139

Also Jimmy Doolittle did not Jenoch Jun 2013 #155

Just an FYI regarding one of my favorite movies liberalhistorian Jun 2013 #25

I declare you to be more astute than the author of the OP Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #36

Re: Mozart's cause of death Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #63

You are quite correct about Susmeyer liberalhistorian Jun 2013 #71

Incorrect: Sussmeyer's work starts pretty late in the Requiem DeltaLitProf Jun 2013 #82

What can I say? Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #100

We DO know he was not poisoned DeltaLitProf Jun 2013 #80

Well, they weren't quite as poor as was portrayed Warpy Jun 2013 #81

I totally agree that it's unfair to include Amadeus on this list. It never claimed to be historical. scarletwoman Jun 2013 #120

Mississippi Burning 6000eliot Jun 2013 #28

Aside from portraying J Edgar as a defender of Civil Rights... MinM Jun 2013 #112

I so completely agree on that. liberalhistorian Jun 2013 #126

"most" inaccurate? Hardly. Warren DeMontague Jun 2013 #29

Inglorious Bastards Calista241 Jun 2013 #30

Just like Django Unchained Chisox08 Jun 2013 #42

I really like that line! jonthebru Jun 2013 #66

I was actually enjoying the Abe Lincoln Vampire movie SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #186

Also, this movie should be on the list... Ian David Jun 2013 #31

Before even seeing the list pokerfan Jun 2013 #32

Most fictional movies based on true events really are fiction. No one Cleita Jun 2013 #33

completely agree steve2470 Jun 2013 #159

Does that mean Star Wars is less historically inaccurate? tblue Jun 2013 #34

Historic accuracy matters not at all. aristocles Jun 2013 #38

You're right of course Posteritatis Jun 2013 #48

Unfortunately it seems that many people do learn their history from movies... uriel1972 Jun 2013 #87

The Conqueror - Starring John Wayne as intaglio Jun 2013 #39

"Ms de Carlo then takes up with the reformed bandit" Well at least she ended up with Herman Munster. L0oniX Jun 2013 #46

Sid was in a movie??? Did he use a lot of duct tape??? L0oniX Jun 2013 #45

I've seen most of those panader0 Jun 2013 #50

Birth of a Nation FuzzyRabbit Jun 2013 #52

I thought U-571 might make the list. nt StrayKat Jun 2013 #53

U 571 is an action adventure fiction story OmahaBlueDog Jun 2013 #74

I think it meets the criteria. StrayKat Jun 2013 #109

The Guardian film reviewer thought so Bosonic Jun 2013 #83

The movie was terrible davidpdx Jun 2013 #123

I can't believe 'The Bible' isn't on that list. n/t cynatnite Jun 2013 #57

Argo Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #60

I so agree 100+! arthritisR_US Jun 2013 #86

We Were Soldiers tabasco Jun 2013 #61

And in the "coming soon" department... jmowreader Jun 2013 #62

Truth is more interesting than fiction JPZenger Jun 2013 #64

JFK is about Garrison, not about JFK. The film portrays Garrison very accurately. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #153

300 tabasco Jun 2013 #67

Viva Zapata a la izquierda Jun 2013 #68

I'm surprised "We Were Soldiers" wasn't on the list. They outright made an American victory up. Dash87 Jun 2013 #70

War of the Worlds. Very inaccurate. The aliens took over congress. Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #75

To put JFK on that list is idiotic. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2013 #77

If you want the facts go to the library and read a book .. otherwise it's just entertainment...>> YOHABLO Jun 2013 #79

this list is historically inaccurate. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #85

"Birth of a Nation" should be on that list. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2013 #88

The Last Samurai Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #89

What spoiled it for me, was the Samurai had been training all their lives MichaelMcGuire Jun 2013 #95

He mastered Japanese calligraphy pretty fast, too Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #98

Aye hes a natural lol MichaelMcGuire Jun 2013 #99

You are not taking his Uber high Thetan levels in to account SQUEE Jun 2013 #164

Ghostbusters. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2013 #90

LOL davidpdx Jun 2013 #125

Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn! Mothdust Jun 2013 #91

What I find interesting about Braveheart is MichaelMcGuire Jun 2013 #94

Wrong. #1 Reefer Madness JNelson6563 Jun 2013 #96

The Sound Of Music no_hypocrisy Jun 2013 #97

Austria actually does border Switzerland KamaAina Jun 2013 #162

Point taken. no_hypocrisy Jun 2013 #172

Ridiculous article. Pop culture crap. I was expecting more. Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #101

It's called "dramatic license" SoCalDem Jun 2013 #102

How about "They Died With Their Boots On" CanonRay Jun 2013 #105

The criticism of Man On the Moon isn't that good. gulliver Jun 2013 #107

What is really becoming noticeable is any movie whose plot revolves around not.. Tikki Jun 2013 #111

In "The Fugitive" the police take something like 15 seconds to trace a call. GreenStormCloud Jun 2013 #119

And none of them touted as documentaries marshall Jun 2013 #114

the Patriot with Mel Gibson was pretty awful Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #127

Any historical movie touched by Mel Gibson is pretty awful. Xithras Jun 2013 #149

The only ones I've seen are davidpdx Jun 2013 #128

Very surprised that "The Patriot" was not included on that list es466 Jun 2013 #130

One that buggede the hell out of me was "Midway" with Charleston Heston stevebreeze Jun 2013 #131

altough Midway is chock full of errors.. SQUEE Jun 2013 #169

Loose Change. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #132

How about Giant Gila Monster? NBachers Jun 2013 #136

The History of the World, Part I? Fumesucker Jun 2013 #138

"Caveman" with Ringo Starr bluedigger Jun 2013 #145

erin brockovich? because hollywood played up the boobs? unblock Jun 2013 #151

My Top Ten list demwing Jun 2013 #156

History of the World Part I? Rex Jun 2013 #158

"Fellowship of the Ring" should have gotten adapted screenplay Oscar over "A Beautiful Mind"... cascadiance Jun 2013 #165

You're all wrong zipplewrath Jun 2013 #167

I wonder which of the many films about the Earps and the Clantons is considered the most accurate? Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2013 #168

DC 9/11: Time of Crisis MinM Jun 2013 #170

As much as I love Cassablanca the movie has one HUGE historical error StevieM Jun 2013 #175

Inglorious Basterds didn't make the list? nt Incitatus Jun 2013 #176

"Moneyball" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2013 #178

they should've included "Elizabeth" to that list too CitizenLeft Jun 2013 #179

No "Birth of a Nation"? n/t n2doc Jun 2013 #185