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In reply to the discussion: Help me understand , why is semi automatic in a rifle so important to gun owners here? [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)277. The AR-15 is a very easy rifle to modify to better suit the owner...
and this can be accomplished without the aid of a gunsmith.
GUNS
The Wild and Crazy World of AR-15 Modification
By Adam Clark Estes
The AR-15 has become the most infamous gun in America in the last few month. The rifle, originally designed for United States troops in Vietnam, has been flying off the shelves since the Newtown and Aurora shootings. In fact, the AR-15, which fans also refer to as the Black Rifle, has been flying off the shelves for years. There are now around five million AR-15s in the hands of everyday Americans.
Exactly why the Black Rifle has become so insanely popular is up for debate, but Wired's Jon Stokes makes a strong case in an article that declares "The AR-15 Is More Than a Gun. Its a Gadget." Among other revelations, Stokes attributes the AR-15's popularity in part to the gun's hackability. Like the hot rod craze, high definition stereo trend, and the fixed gear bike phenomenon before it, the AR-15 appeals to the American desire for individuality and customizability.
"I always tease that its like Legos for grown men," Jay Duncan, the vice president of sales for AR-15 maker Daniel Defense, explained to Wired, because theres plenty of guys that get one, two, six ARs. And theyre constantly tinkering with them changing barrel lengths, changing optics, putting different sights on them. Its the same reason that a guy gets into remote-controlled cars or fly tying. Because its a fun hobby, and its a distraction from reality sometimes."
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-wild-crazy-world-of-ar-15-modification
History of The American Rifle
***snip***
For well over a century, many of our most popular sporting rifles have directly evolved from a service rifle of a particular era. Battlefield requirements in a rifle such as accuracy, ruggedness, reliability and fast follow-up shots are features equally sought by hunters and target shooters.
The bolt-action centerfire rifle, for many decades America's classic deer hunting rifle, is a descendent of the First World War battle rifle, the 1903 Springfield. The bolt-action of the Springfield offered smooth and rapid cycling of the action and allowed for the use of a more powerful cartridge, the .30/06, accurate at ranges out to 1000 yards. More than a hundred years later, the .30/06 remains as America's most popular big game hunting cartridge.
The first semi-automatic (one shot per pull of the trigger) U.S. service rifle, the Springfield .30 M-1, popularly known as the Garand, saw service initially in the Second World War. Not long after the war, a wide range of semi-automatic hunting rifles as well as semi-automatic shotguns were developed by sporting arms manufacturers and have gained widespread popularity among both hunters and clay target shooters.
Today, the AR-15 looks like the M-16 service rifle that first saw combat in Vietnam. To be sure, the AR-15 does not look like a traditional sporting rifle. Neither, in their time, did the Spencer or the Springfield. What the AR-15 does look like is the latest iteration of a modern rifle that employs advanced technology and ergonomic design to produce an exceptionally reliable, rugged and accurate sporting rifle. Produced in different configurations and chambered in a variety of calibers, AR-type rifles not only can be used for, indeed are exceptionally well suited to, many types of hunting, precision target shooting as well as personal protection. In recent years, AR-type rifles have become among the most popular sporting rifles sold in the United States.
http://www.nssf.org/msr/history.cfm
I also feel the reason that many people have bought AR-15 rifles is because of all the publicity they have received in the movies and in the gun control debate. I remember the Dirty Harry movies and his S&W .44 magnum revolver. Prior to the movie, .44 Magnum handguns were firearms only used by serious hunters and were considered far too powerful for the average person. The Dirty Harry movies caused many people to run out and buy one just to show to their friends and the price increased dramatically. For several years it was difficult to even find one in a gun shop as gun stores had a long list of buyers waiting to purchase one.
I should point out that I do not own an AR-15 at this time as I have no reason to own one. However I plan to move to a rural area of Florida in the future and may decide to buy an AR-15 to hunt feral hogs on my property and to target shoot.
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Help me understand , why is semi automatic in a rifle so important to gun owners here? [View all]
newmember
May 2013
OP
so what do you think about the following response about making an AR15 fully automatic?
DrDan
May 2013
#226
I don't know, ask the guy that was arrested in New York for having two extra bullets in a magazine.
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#146
So let's remove that right from the 99.99% who are not hurting people with guns.
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#233
I'm not willing to examine an approach that removes a right from 99.99% of those that have
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#300
What effect would those initiatives have on the 99.99% that do not commit gun crimes?
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#303
Typical response. Oh, you are sooooo right, I can't think for myself or have an opinion. I
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#305
i would love to c the empirical evidence to support the 99.99% claim.btw i think you mean .01 above
samsingh
May 2013
#306
There are approximatey 52 million households with firearms in the US, and approximately
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#307
If you think those that would use a firearm in an illegal manner would follow this limit on
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#234
We should, as a nation, be able to solve the gun violence calamity that grips our country.
CTyankee
May 2013
#248
I'd like to get back to the point you made earlier about having a more just society, clean
CTyankee
May 2013
#260
I like Premium's answer, so let me piggyback a bit on it. Curbing gun violence is not a
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#253
Some problems with your owning that semi-automatic. What happens if that gun is stolen
CTyankee
May 2013
#258
You, clearly, have never been out hunting rabbits. A rabbit is a moving target and may take
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#266
I wasn't arguing about your rabbit hunting. You are right, I know nothing about hunting
CTyankee
May 2013
#267
OK, do you think that state laws prohibiting a gun owner from transporting his gun, fully
CTyankee
May 2013
#270
well, would state laws regulating the manner in which the gun is transported be
CTyankee
May 2013
#272
It appears that there is a "time, place and manner" restriction of some sort on the
CTyankee
May 2013
#278
well, no. If it were that simple we wouldn't have the federal courts, esp. the Supreme Court, tell
CTyankee
May 2013
#290
so my point is that there are lots of gun control laws that we can have but we don't.
CTyankee
May 2013
#292
If the gun owner had his weapons in his home, laying outl, or in a safe, or in his vehicle for
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#279
actually, I was drawing that distinction between the gun owner who loses possession of
CTyankee
May 2013
#282
So you want to limit speech since it can be dangerous? but not limit guns that are dangerous
newmember
May 2013
#43
If you'd ever hunted rabbits, you'd quickly understand the value of a semi-automatic shotgun.
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#156
I think it's more important to people who are afraid of guns than to gun owners, but that might...
NYC_SKP
May 2013
#5
I grt it was good for you. Unfortunately, guns are not so good for others and society.
Hoyt
May 2013
#57
Which, of course, they routinely are. And thousands of innocents pay the price.
Arugula Latte
May 2013
#113
Would you be able to hunt with a restriction to, say, 3 rounds before reloading?
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#134
In areas where feral hogs are over-running the landscape, AR-15s are the choice
Eleanors38
May 2013
#137
Anyone out to 'eradicate' an entire population of animals ought to have a special licence
muriel_volestrangler
May 2013
#145
I do think the future of our country is our children and the state we leave it in .
newmember
May 2013
#49
I think the Dems are sensitive to the gun issue because so many of our leaders have
alfredo
May 2013
#25
There's always a surge in gun sales whenever a Dem takes office. I still haven't seen any real
alfredo
May 2013
#171
That's up to the right wing media and the Tea Party. One week it is gays, next week it is Muslims.
alfredo
May 2013
#180
When we see or hear of armed right wingers shooting Obama targets, or Hillary targets,
alfredo
May 2013
#204
I don't get the people who cite discrepancies in fire power between individuals and cops or military
morningfog
May 2013
#29
Oh, I'd love to see an overhaul of our outdated, outmoded constitution to one of
CTyankee
May 2013
#216
Well, my right to work for election of my state legislature to pass stricter gun laws is
CTyankee
May 2013
#284
Being popular ain't necessarily a good thing. I'm sure the majority of Tbaggers love them.
Hoyt
May 2013
#188
Clearly important to be "practical" and callous when selecting from your lethal weapon options.
Hoyt
May 2013
#194
I made the mistake of living where confederate flags and guns are considered normal.
Hoyt
May 2013
#237
There's your problem. Sadly, those that covet these abominations can't live without
Hoyt
May 2013
#41
They are marketed in this country to yahoos, many of whom look forward to fighting here.
Hoyt
May 2013
#68
Well, then he didn't follow from my post #66 referring to that Rem. 700 in Vietnam. eom
rdharma
May 2013
#232
That was my understanding. I thought maybe I'd misunderstood semi-automatics.
Honeycombe8
May 2013
#86
The term is confusing mostly because there is no clear definition of what an assault weapon is
newmember
May 2013
#102
I'm referring to the "militia" clause. The idea of "citizens militia" became obsolete ......
rdharma
May 2013
#133
No. It just points out how irrelevant the "well regulated militia" clause is today..... eom
rdharma
May 2013
#139
Actually, the "wild wild west" had less violent gun crime than we have in major cities today.
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#256
Could it be that Bushmaster is the largest producer of the AR15 and also the largest donor to the
Monk06
May 2013
#73
Common use for nearly a century and probably make up the majority of firearms owned.
TheKentuckian
May 2013
#77
You could do that with a revolver , lever action , pump shotgun or even a pump action rifle
newmember
May 2013
#100
rifles (semi auto or not) are only used in about 4% of gun murders in the U.S.
rollin74
May 2013
#92
Yeah, I don't get it. Always made sense to me but then most things that do, don't for many others.
raouldukelives
May 2013
#117
They are also carried extensively in areas of Alaska for self protection from
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#161
Excellent link. I skimmed it for now, but will go back and read it in its entirety later.
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#166
Because most of the gun nuts are "shooting blanks" if ya know what I mean.... gotta compensate.
Erose999
May 2013
#168
cuz they are all crazy cowboys who love to play with things that explode in their hands
librechik
May 2013
#181
Someone posting 500 pro-gun posts a month online sure isn't just a hobbyist either. They're a NUT.
Electric Monk
May 2013
#214