Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

BainsBane

(57,295 posts)
49. If you want to encourage support
Sat May 4, 2013, 02:36 AM
May 2013

Last edited Sat May 4, 2013, 02:05 PM - Edit history (1)

You should create your own thread rather than entering a subthread on another topic and accusing me of not paying attention to something you can't bother to write an OP about.

There is no law requiring women in Turkey veil. The woman in Turkey received death threats. Evidently that is less important to you than the reason for which she received them. Adria Richards received death threats too and her crime was believing she had the right to work in an environment free from discrimination. And we had so-called feminists on this board celebrating her being fired. So called feminists on this board lecture rape victims about not wearing appropriate clothing, and so-called feminists defend male members who insist women don't really mean no when they say they don't want to have sex. People say all kinds of stuff. I'm not interesting in indulging your personal grudges with other members here. That is your fight, not mine, particularly when you won't make an effort to understand their arguments.

Women in Iran under the Shah were assaulted for wearing veils, as have been women in France in recent years. You also completely ignored the point in the other thread that Muslim headscarves cover not more than ordinary designer scarves worn by non-Muslim French women. The only difference in the two is the one signals a religious and ethnic identity that the French and many Americans despise.

The only view of Muslim women that you appear interested in are as victims. You consistently refuse to grant them the same respect you demand for sex workers in this country. The Egyptian women I referenced are protesting sexual assault. They protest sexist comments by government officials because they recognize such language is connected to subjugation of women. Here people routinely trivialize that sort of activism. Many Muslim women do not share your obsession with veiling because it is not obligatory in Egypt, Turkey, Indonesia, and most Muslim countries. Yet some choose to veil, despise the fact you insist they dress only as you approve.





Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

rule by religion IS authoritarian rule whether voted in with 51% majority or not nt msongs May 2013 #1
How does that relate to this study? BainsBane May 2013 #2
Absolutely correct get the red out May 2013 #4
Where is it a crime to speak out against religion? BainsBane May 2013 #5
... LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #6
Canada, Australia, and Austria BainsBane May 2013 #7
Canada's law is explained in the link provided: LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #8
the point is there is not one Islam BainsBane May 2013 #14
Check out Blasphemy Laws get the red out May 2013 #9
I'd like to see you name them BainsBane May 2013 #21
Where did I say it was limited to Muslim nations???????? get the red out May 2013 #27
Bullying? BainsBane May 2013 #31
Once again get the red out May 2013 #38
It really is a lost cause BainsBane May 2013 #41
I have a question for you: Not hostile get the red out May 2013 #50
Really doesn't paint a pretty picture of them as far as statistics go. nt NCTraveler May 2013 #3
The stats are pretty ugly get the red out May 2013 #10
+1. nt Honeycombe8 May 2013 #42
The "violence is sometimes justified" remark Blue_In_AK May 2013 #11
Fundies are fundies everywhere. LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #13
excellent point BainsBane May 2013 #22
So do you believe that Islamic women who DO object to virtual enslavement... randome May 2013 #12
No BainsBane May 2013 #18
FWIW, I also misinterpreted your OP. closeupready May 2013 #24
My point was simply to encourage people look at differences BainsBane May 2013 #37
There's quite a bit of concern LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #32
only other threads of mine do get attention BainsBane May 2013 #33
Why do you assume Muslim feminists are like Sarah Palin? BainsBane May 2013 #34
It has the same absurdity level as assuming they're definitely not LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #35
Amina clearly has had lots of support BainsBane May 2013 #36
It would be an incorrect assumption LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #39
the article I linked to wasn't in favor of veiling BainsBane May 2013 #40
But the article I linked to *was* about veiling LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #46
If you want to encourage support BainsBane May 2013 #49
I didn't see those posts. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #45
They don't seem like real protests? BainsBane May 2013 #48
Meanwhile, the US has never had a female president. closeupready May 2013 #15
Indeed. Blue_In_AK May 2013 #16
Muslim countries which have had female heads of state BainsBane May 2013 #19
Yep; yet, Americans lecture, as if from on high, closeupready May 2013 #23
yes BainsBane May 2013 #29
It is interesting how that works. nt redqueen May 2013 #30
It looks like Megawati is going to try again next year, too. Turborama May 2013 #28
That's a far cry from executing a woman for getting raped. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #43
Yet, THEIR women have climbed higher summits. closeupready May 2013 #47
About that "democracy" thing supernova May 2013 #17
I imagine they do understand democracy differently from us BainsBane May 2013 #20
Yes, you're reading it wrong Turborama May 2013 #25
I've heard it said by "experts" on tv numerous times...the middle east can never be Honeycombe8 May 2013 #44
I like this OP a lot. Thanks! Luminous Animal May 2013 #26
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»What Muslims Around the W...»Reply #49