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LadyHawkAZ

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32. There's quite a bit of concern
Fri May 3, 2013, 03:24 PM
May 2013

but the thing about concern is, people tend to use it on the ones who need it most. I think the lack of activity on your posts may have something to do with who posted it.

This crossed my Facebook feed this morning:

Bestselling Turkish Writer is receiving death threats, after she took her veil off

http://www.muslimwomennews.com/faces/sn.php?nid=21964

Arguing that there is no verse for wearing headscarves in the Quran, Kazan has faced heavy criticism also in her country due to her thoughts. Her own father attacked her house with stones. Kazan who worked voluntarily at WFUNA, a human rights association of United Nations, claims that headscarves were used due to geographical conditions before Islam by both Arabic women and men as a custom. Conducting studies on Women Rights in Islam, Kazan explained why she uncovered her head and what has changed in her life since then.

(snip)

I suffered from vitamin D deficiency since my skin didn't get enough sunlight by then and this normally causes serious illnesses, weakness and mental fatigue. I sunbathed a lot. Then I tied my hair in a pony-tail and played tennis under the blue sky with my white tennis clothes on. I cannot tell you how good it felt. Then I fulfilled my dream of growing nails and putting on red nail polish, which was a personal remembrance to me. I had met a woman in my trip to Iran who was forced to put her hands into a bag full of insects just because she had put on red nail polish... Whenever I put on red nail polish, I still remember that woman with sadness...

Now I am free and believe that God has no problem with the hair on my head, He will not burn me in his Hell for this reason, He holds us with much more mercy and kindness than we think, and that being "a good person" is much more important than wearing a dark veil.

I have understood that destroying our lives like a criminal in pain and tears just because we express our feelings of thankfulness clearly cannot be something He desires. And I have chosen to accept everyone He created, without conditions, prejudices and with love like He does. This new movement which saves Muslim women from the primitive image of Arabic nomadic life should rather be encouraged than being criticized. Women should be the sole decision makers on what they wear.


Where's the support? People here dissed Amina Tyler and went to some pretty extreme lengths to try to discredit her. People here dissed Sila Sahin. Where was the support? Aliaa Elmahdy got rape and death threats for her epic (nude) protest on the treatment of women in Egypt: why is the concern directed only at women protesting sexual assault who dress "properly"?- think hard about that one for a minute. Where's the support? Were those women Westerners, looking down their noses from a Western perspective? Why the vehement insistence, contrary to all evidence, that veiling is the one and only free choice that women have anywhere, and that those who get free of it are mere patriarchal tools doing what teh menz tell them to? Where's the support?

Did we support Sarah Palin's goals when she claimed to be a "feminist" speaking for women and their needs? How about Batshit Annie? Why is this different? Why, if we scoff at fundies in our own country and fight their ideas tooth and nail, should we honor them in others?

How any of that adds up to anything other than support for social conservatism, in direct defiance of the cause of women's rights, is completely beyond me, even if I am "too Western and superior" to be allowed an opinion. In fact if you want to go that route, to say "You can't have an opinion on women's rights in Muslim countries because Western bombings, drones, wars blah blah" is also using the broad brush- I haven't bombed anyone, I don't run a drone, I protested the wars, and the treatment of women in Islamic societies still, in my imperialist superior Western opinion, sucks. Muslims aren't all the same, everywhere? Well duh, but neither are all Westerners speaking from an imperialist warmonger perspective. Some of us just don't think women's rights should take a back seat to "respect" for fundamentalist abusers of any stripe, that's all.

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rule by religion IS authoritarian rule whether voted in with 51% majority or not nt msongs May 2013 #1
How does that relate to this study? BainsBane May 2013 #2
Absolutely correct get the red out May 2013 #4
Where is it a crime to speak out against religion? BainsBane May 2013 #5
... LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #6
Canada, Australia, and Austria BainsBane May 2013 #7
Canada's law is explained in the link provided: LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #8
the point is there is not one Islam BainsBane May 2013 #14
Check out Blasphemy Laws get the red out May 2013 #9
I'd like to see you name them BainsBane May 2013 #21
Where did I say it was limited to Muslim nations???????? get the red out May 2013 #27
Bullying? BainsBane May 2013 #31
Once again get the red out May 2013 #38
It really is a lost cause BainsBane May 2013 #41
I have a question for you: Not hostile get the red out May 2013 #50
Really doesn't paint a pretty picture of them as far as statistics go. nt NCTraveler May 2013 #3
The stats are pretty ugly get the red out May 2013 #10
+1. nt Honeycombe8 May 2013 #42
The "violence is sometimes justified" remark Blue_In_AK May 2013 #11
Fundies are fundies everywhere. LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #13
excellent point BainsBane May 2013 #22
So do you believe that Islamic women who DO object to virtual enslavement... randome May 2013 #12
No BainsBane May 2013 #18
FWIW, I also misinterpreted your OP. closeupready May 2013 #24
My point was simply to encourage people look at differences BainsBane May 2013 #37
There's quite a bit of concern LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #32
only other threads of mine do get attention BainsBane May 2013 #33
Why do you assume Muslim feminists are like Sarah Palin? BainsBane May 2013 #34
It has the same absurdity level as assuming they're definitely not LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #35
Amina clearly has had lots of support BainsBane May 2013 #36
It would be an incorrect assumption LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #39
the article I linked to wasn't in favor of veiling BainsBane May 2013 #40
But the article I linked to *was* about veiling LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #46
If you want to encourage support BainsBane May 2013 #49
I didn't see those posts. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #45
They don't seem like real protests? BainsBane May 2013 #48
Meanwhile, the US has never had a female president. closeupready May 2013 #15
Indeed. Blue_In_AK May 2013 #16
Muslim countries which have had female heads of state BainsBane May 2013 #19
Yep; yet, Americans lecture, as if from on high, closeupready May 2013 #23
yes BainsBane May 2013 #29
It is interesting how that works. nt redqueen May 2013 #30
It looks like Megawati is going to try again next year, too. Turborama May 2013 #28
That's a far cry from executing a woman for getting raped. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #43
Yet, THEIR women have climbed higher summits. closeupready May 2013 #47
About that "democracy" thing supernova May 2013 #17
I imagine they do understand democracy differently from us BainsBane May 2013 #20
Yes, you're reading it wrong Turborama May 2013 #25
I've heard it said by "experts" on tv numerous times...the middle east can never be Honeycombe8 May 2013 #44
I like this OP a lot. Thanks! Luminous Animal May 2013 #26
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