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supernova

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17. About that "democracy" thing

Fri May 3, 2013, 01:45 PM

May 2013

Given the answers to other questions in the survey (do women have the right to divorce, should females obey men, and should traditional dress be optional) I really have to wonder if there is an understanding, in the full context of that term as we in the west define it, of the word "democracy."

It seems the only muslims who get what "democracy" means in practical day to day terms are Indians/Pakistani and US Muslims. Or am I reading that wrong?

Overall, muslims in the rest of the world come off much more conservative than we westerners.

One of those things we always knew, but it's nice to have it quantified.

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rule by religion IS authoritarian rule whether voted in with 51% majority or not nt msongs May 2013 #1

How does that relate to this study? BainsBane May 2013 #2

Absolutely correct get the red out May 2013 #4

Where is it a crime to speak out against religion? BainsBane May 2013 #5

... LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #6

Canada, Australia, and Austria BainsBane May 2013 #7

Canada's law is explained in the link provided: LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #8

the point is there is not one Islam BainsBane May 2013 #14

Check out Blasphemy Laws get the red out May 2013 #9

I'd like to see you name them BainsBane May 2013 #21

Where did I say it was limited to Muslim nations???????? get the red out May 2013 #27

Bullying? BainsBane May 2013 #31

Once again get the red out May 2013 #38

It really is a lost cause BainsBane May 2013 #41

I have a question for you: Not hostile get the red out May 2013 #50

Really doesn't paint a pretty picture of them as far as statistics go. nt NCTraveler May 2013 #3

The stats are pretty ugly get the red out May 2013 #10

+1. nt Honeycombe8 May 2013 #42

The "violence is sometimes justified" remark Blue_In_AK May 2013 #11

Fundies are fundies everywhere. LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #13

excellent point BainsBane May 2013 #22

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No BainsBane May 2013 #18

FWIW, I also misinterpreted your OP. closeupready May 2013 #24

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There's quite a bit of concern LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #32

only other threads of mine do get attention BainsBane May 2013 #33

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It would be an incorrect assumption LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #39

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But the article I linked to *was* about veiling LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #46

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I didn't see those posts. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #45

They don't seem like real protests? BainsBane May 2013 #48

Meanwhile, the US has never had a female president. closeupready May 2013 #15

Indeed. Blue_In_AK May 2013 #16

Muslim countries which have had female heads of state BainsBane May 2013 #19

Yep; yet, Americans lecture, as if from on high, closeupready May 2013 #23

yes BainsBane May 2013 #29

It is interesting how that works. nt redqueen May 2013 #30

It looks like Megawati is going to try again next year, too. Turborama May 2013 #28

That's a far cry from executing a woman for getting raped. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #43

Yet, THEIR women have climbed higher summits. closeupready May 2013 #47

About that "democracy" thing supernova May 2013 #17

I imagine they do understand democracy differently from us BainsBane May 2013 #20

Yes, you're reading it wrong Turborama May 2013 #25

I've heard it said by "experts" on tv numerous times...the middle east can never be Honeycombe8 May 2013 #44

I like this OP a lot. Thanks! Luminous Animal May 2013 #26