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marmar

(79,105 posts)
Fri May 3, 2013, 07:28 AM May 2013

Why Are People with Health Insurance Going Bankrupt? [View all]


from the Real News Network:




Dr. Margaret Flowers is a pediatrician from Baltimore who advocates for a national single payer health system, Medicare for all. She is an organizer of October2011.org/Occupy Washington, DC and co-director of ItsOurEconomy.us.

Kevin Zeese is co-director of It's Our Economy, an organization that advocates for democratizing the economy. He's also an attorney who is one of the original organizers of the National Occupation of Washington, DC.

.....(snip).....

JAY: So tell us now. You have been critical about this from the beginning. You were for single-payer during the health-care debate. But now it's passed. It's starting to be implemented. You have a better idea what it is. So how's it looking?

FLOWERS: Right. Well, it's looking pretty much like what we expected. Right now the United States is the only industrialized wealthy nation that has a market-based health care system, and the Affordable Care Act moved us further in the direction of a market-based health care system by requiring people who don't qualify for the public programs to purchase private health insurance. That will be going into effect. The exchanges where people will buy that insurance roll out in October of this year. By January 2014, people have to have insurance or face a penalty.

But what we're seeing in terms of the type of insurance that people are going to be offered and the trends of what people are actually purchasing right now is we're moving more in the direction of what we call underinsurance, where people may have an insurance plan, but there are significant financial barriers to getting actual care and significant financial risks if someone has a serious accident or illness.

.....(snip).....

FLOWERS: Right. And also, you know, the thing that I often point out is that the United States is already spending more than enough for a universal, comprehensive, high-quality health-care system. We spend two and a half times what the average OECD nation, you know, industrialized nation spends per person on health care. So we have the money to do this and we have the resources to do this, and it's really just up to us to demand that we have the kind of health-care system that we need. And you can't get the cost—that was my point was that you can't get the real cost savings unless you do this at a national level.

ZEESE: What I was laughing about was I was thinking about Congress (incompr.) all this craziness about deficit. Health care's 18 percent of our GDP and going up, and you're not going to solve the deficit for the long term without solving health care. .......................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=767&Itemid=74&jumival=9986



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The ACA is going to be a disaster for millions, MadHound May 2013 #1
It amazes me that people still see ACA as progress Cal Carpenter May 2013 #2
Fixes old problems, ignores new ones zipplewrath May 2013 #16
What the Affordable Care Act accomplished: bvar22 May 2013 #23
The GOP will bring it to us zipplewrath May 2013 #34
if one is disabled then ACA is the difference between coverage and none CreekDog May 2013 #41
There ARE elements that benefit certain small groups. bvar22 May 2013 #43
There are subsidies - Ms. Toad May 2013 #74
universal health care would do the same for everyone. HiPointDem May 2013 #64
So, you must favor repeal then. geek tragedy May 2013 #6
The mandate should be repealed n/t leftstreet May 2013 #8
I agree Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #26
it doesnt get any simplier than that. SammyWinstonJack May 2013 #42
Everone has to be in the pool - Ms. Toad May 2013 #75
What nonsense leftstreet May 2013 #77
Costs get covered for those who are insured. Ms. Toad May 2013 #78
Maybe because the premiums are like an extra house payment for many people SoCalDem May 2013 #3
Our medical insurance premiums and co-pays are greater than our mortgage payment. hunter May 2013 #7
Exactly! ctsnowman May 2013 #12
Love the cat pic. ctsnowman May 2013 #14
My premium was my house payment and my car payment. $600 a month. leftyladyfrommo May 2013 #55
As A Lowly State Employee of Rick Perry's Texjezustan BlueManFan May 2013 #4
When I worked there it was pretty good. alarimer May 2013 #50
How could it possibly be bad? kenny blankenship May 2013 #52
I know people still being denied coverage abelenkpe May 2013 #5
I just tried to switch policies for my husband (who has a very serious PEC). Denied. riderinthestorm May 2013 #15
I am so sorry to hear that! abelenkpe May 2013 #22
The changes don't take effect until 2014. Ms. Toad May 2013 #72
I guarantee ACA is going to fail for a lot of people. L0oniX May 2013 #9
Your story is exactly why we need universal single payer medical care. KentuckyWoman May 2013 #60
Insurance is only part of the problem, and a smaller part to boot. JayhawkSD May 2013 #10
Jayhawk, it's the perfect storm. Health care providers and insurance LibDemAlways May 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author LibDemAlways May 2013 #30
Goddamn right! roamer65 May 2013 #44
The insurance companies have no incentives to control costs. hunter May 2013 #53
Insurance overhead is a huge part of the problem. HiPointDem May 2013 #65
Huge K&R. woo me with science May 2013 #11
legalized robbery hibbing May 2013 #13
Yes, and all the "negotiation" points were used up with this one... Bonobo May 2013 #17
Underinsurance Is Exactly Where We Are At DallasNE May 2013 #19
Silly Question Half-Century Man May 2013 #20
Half-century man, I feel your pain. I posted elsewhere on this LibDemAlways May 2013 #32
Sorry you are being put through this. Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #36
I was in my dentist's waiting room and heard the LibDemAlways May 2013 #51
Glad you did that. Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #56
I posted the dentist story here just the other day and had more than one LibDemAlways May 2013 #59
I'm not surprised. Skeeter Barnes May 2013 #61
worthy of its own thread, H-C M Skittles May 2013 #39
Agree, and it is insane you have to endure this. Safetykitten May 2013 #63
I don't trust insurance companies OwnedByCats May 2013 #21
Even their most rosy, heavily slanted projections of this slow-motion disaster show Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #24
In Civilized Nations, the term "Medical Bankruptcy" is UNKNOWN, bvar22 May 2013 #25
malarky graham4anything May 2013 #27
Wow. What a counter-argument !!! marmar May 2013 #28
The "Obama's sh*t don't stink" contingent has spoken Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #31
Oh? ForgoTheConsequence May 2013 #38
yes, that pretty much describes your response Skittles May 2013 #40
it's 'malarkey,' word-salad man. HiPointDem May 2013 #66
Years ago, health insurance picked up EVERYTHING. closeupready May 2013 #29
Because insurance companies are fucking evil. Zoeisright May 2013 #33
the 'uniquely american solution' KG May 2013 #35
Had breakfast this morning with a friend who has been LibDemAlways May 2013 #37
Obama screwed us again-getting used to it now DiverDave May 2013 #45
K and R senseandsensibility May 2013 #46
Kick for the abysmal condition of health "care" in the greatest nation on the planet. CrispyQ May 2013 #47
Walk into a doctor's office today in the U.S. and the first question has nothing LibDemAlways May 2013 #49
Because above all else, Obama cares about helping the rich get richer. forestpath May 2013 #48
Max Baucus screwed us royally. madamesilverspurs May 2013 #54
They don't call it "Baucuscare" kenny blankenship May 2013 #58
I'm so tired of the blame Baucus and Obama is powerless excuse... slipslidingaway May 2013 #69
+1. it's unbelievable how powerless obama is. he can't do anything. one wonders why we even HiPointDem May 2013 #70
Very true and the picture some paint is unflattering ... slipslidingaway May 2013 #71
My personal case history KentuckyWoman May 2013 #57
Your story sounds familiar. progressoid May 2013 #68
The real fun starts this fall. It will be quite a spectacle of HC nightmares. Safetykitten May 2013 #62
Historically it will go down as one of Obamas biggest failures newmember May 2013 #67
Do not look at your annual deductible, look at your annual out of pocket maximum... slipslidingaway May 2013 #73
Because the medical industry gopiscrap May 2013 #76
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